(04-20-2020, 06:58 PM)Quark Wrote: I find it funny you're only trying to reinforce your preexisting thoughts, when they've already been shown to be wrong.
Quote:H1N1 was even more contagious and had a mortality rate of 1%, just 0.5% less than COVID-19, but you didn't see the entire world reacting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine...ted_States
Quote:The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, there were 60.8 million cases, 274,000 hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths (range: 8,868–18,306) in the United States due to the virus.
Even in the worst case estimation H1N1 was less than half as deadly in the US over 1.5 years than COVID-19 has been *this month* - and that's assuming our death count for COVID-19 is accurate. Stop underestimating this, it's irresponsible.
To your point, it is more "deadly" because it is more contagious, so a larger swath of people can become infected. Yes, I completely agree, and it was remiss of me to not point that out. However to my point, it is still incredibly less deadly than estimates figured, and actually <0.8% less fatal than H1N1. As I said, what makes it more deadly is its contagiousness. And as I also said before, Social Distancing is here to stay specifically because of this, and is the reality we face economically, there's no downplaying that, but what I'm not downplaying here Quark is lifting the Stay at Home policy, sorry! I think it needs to be lifted immediately, following the guidelines of the other countries using it successfully and responsibly. I wonder, do you still feel I am being irresponsible with the information I'm giving out? Because I just saw the same info I'm spouting printed in no less than five (5) additional news presses, so eight (8) in total; I can provide links if you'd like. If anything, I'm just spreading "real" news here friend, instead of the fearmongering you hear spouted by the big news conglomerates of the day.
On a related note, I have friends who work in hospitals, some of who have friends who also work in hospitals, who have collectively sent images of their hospitals being completely barren of customers... in hot-spots. I made the argument that only the one ward where the COVID patients were being held was as it was shown on the news, but everyone retorted, "see how badly the news distorts reality?!? The keep saying our hospitals are overflowing and showing patients in the hallways when this does not reflect reality," (I'm paraphrasing). Yes, there were bodies flowing out the sick ward, but only that one wing of the hospital so my point is what you heard on the news was wildly inaccurate and overblown! So what makes you so sure what you are still hearing is going to save you?
Now I'm honestly not a Trump supporter, but I can understand why he want's to fire Fauci for unwittingly help spread misinformation without any proof to back it up. Now that we have some real numbers, watch as their tunes will change, just as the media is slowly starting to spin in a new direction. And then whose responsible for shutting down the country? Who becomes our scapegoat? Will it be Fauci? Trump? The Chinese? You tell me, because I guarantee there will be blood for this when it's all over!
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