12-16-2016, 01:08 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2016, 09:12 AM by FireIceTalon.)
Quote:Communism as you think of it will never fucking exist.
Gee, maybe you can use your crystal ball and tell me not to go on the roads tomorrow since you can forsee the fatal car accident I will get into. Or that I will get food poisoning from my lunch the day after that (assuming I don't go driving tomorrow). Or that I will fall down a set of stairs the day after that one
I'm sure every monarch and emperor said and thought the same thing you do; that their power was absolute and that they would rule forever because it was all part of Gods will, lol. Now, look at them. Swept into the dustbin of history. FOREVER. Every system of class conflict has either succumbed to complete social and economic collapse, or was destroyed by social revolution when the institutions were no longer sufficient to uphold changing productive forces. The system and its institutions are failing all over the world, and the ruling classes are responding in panic mode which is why the world is in such turmoil presently.
Capitalism is not economically sustainable. This isn't merely an opinion, it is a fact that can be observed by understanding the systems internal logic and realizing that the space it occupies is finite, its not rocket science. It comes down to either complete collapse into something even more barbaric, or it is replaced by a planned, more rationalized economic system that is safer for the environment, more efficient, and better serves human beings needs (but all of this requires human agency to achieve). The whole point of communism is to ensure the latter and prevent the former, because these are the only two options we face. There are no alternative outcomes besides these two things that can occur in the aftermath of late-stage capitalism. So, it begs the famous question, socialism or barbarism? I am firmly in the camp of the former. You, however, seem to want the latter. If so, you are on the wrong side of history comrade. We must do everything necessary to stop people like you, since it would be utterly catastrophic for both the planet and our species if you got your way.
Quote:Anyone deluded enough to believe that humans will ever be able to coexist in such a manner needs to get out of the fucking basement and meet some real life people
Um lol, they already have coexisted in similar ways. Get out the basement and take a cultural anthropology class please (where you will meet people)
Quote:there are also a fuck ton of corrupt, selfish, power-hungry, conniving bastards, who sure as shit will never allow your silly dream to become a reality.
Well, when the revolution pops off, I know what side of the barracks you will be on.
Anyways, we shall see. For the time being, the capitalists are better organized and more armed than the workers. Don't count on it being that way forever. They are not invincible, far from it in fact, as the many revolutions, uprisings, social movements and struggles that have taken place throughout modern human history prove. Likely, there will come a time their system is overthrown, and they won't be able to do jack shit about it. There are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more workers than there are capitalists and bureaucrats. That is why ideological control is so important for them, cause they know the moment that is gone, *gives throat slitting gesture*. What they will "allow" wont matter, because it will be taken from them BY FORCE. What the fuck do you think a revolution is? We aren't starting an after school book club here. You think we are going to get down on our knees one day and ask them "can we please just have communism, pretty please??". LOL. Believe me, we ain't going to be asking, we are just going to be DOING, simple as that. Oh, you want to try and stop us? Be my guest.
Quote:Communism + humanity = stalinism.
Nope, communism + humanity = simply humanity on a socially higher level.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (on capitalist laws and institutions)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (on capitalist laws and institutions)