Autism, exploitation and Capitalism
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(12-07-2016, 11:05 PM)Ashock Wrote: I'm actually going to give you a semi-real response.

I'm a bit disappointed. You didn't even attempt to engage anything in my previous reply to you Undecided

Quote:Here's the thing. The USSR was a truly evil empire. Practically every name that you use for quotes in your posts like Rosa there, was celebrated back in that country. For example, my elementary school was on the corner of Sverdlov avenue and Luxenburg street.


Emotive argument. And what by evil do you mean exactly?

Further, you are not critiquing communism here, but rather it seems, the 'cult of personality', which has nothing to do with tenets of communist theory as put forth in the writings of Marx and Engels. Most communists are in fact opposed to 'cult of personalities' as we view them to be a product of bougeois society and similar enough to unscientific 'great man theories' of history. Even Fidel Castro condemned the cult of personality. Your entire argument here is a strawman - you are not even arguing against that which I advocate for! LOL.

Quote:Just simple logic alone would dictate that anyone who was praised in that monstrosity of a country, would themselves be pretty damn:
A) Evil or
B) Real stupid

RolleyesRolleyes

So by this "circular logic", the USSR was evil. The USSR praised Rosa Luxumburg. Therefore, Rosa Luxemburg was evil (or just really stupid). This type of thinking is at best, dubious. At worst, extremely dangerous. I guess the next thing you will say is that if I had a daughter and named her Rosa Luxemburg (I am speaking hypothetically here as I wouldn't do this) that by default she would be evil too, right? Rolleyes

If you had read even an ounce of Marxist literature or history, then you should know that Luxumburg was arguably the most prominent and vocal Marxist critic of the Russian Revolution and understood its problems well before Stalin ever came to power. She mercilessly critiqued the flaws in Lenin's theory of 'Democratic Centralism' and Vanguardism, and understood that it was not a continuation of Marx's theories, but a distortion of them; and thus the potential for the Revolution to go from being proletarian in character into a bureaucratic regime. So even if we assume the USSR to be "evil" (and thats still a big if), the notion that Luxemburg was evil is false given the facts I just stated. Unless you have some other premise in mind? I doubt you do.

As for her being "real stupid", lol, this is just more of your childish comedy talking. Luxemburg was intellectually brilliant by any measure, regardless of whatever political framework you choose to subscribe to. You by comparison, are an intellectual peon next to the likes of Rosa Luxemburg. Maybe you should go read some of her works and obtain some factual information first so you at least have SOME idea of what you are talking about making an argument, instead of arguing from emotions and watching the Nazi shitheap that is Breitbart. And I'm not saying this cause I'm a Marxist. There have been plenty of brilliant and notable right-wing thinkers too; many of the conservative philosophers that became the foundation for modern right-wing thought were quite intelligent, even if I vehemently disagree with everything they wrote.

I think its time to put you back on ignore. Kandrathes arguments are far more reasonable, interesting to read, and much more worthy of my time to engage than your drivel.
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RE: Autism, exploitation and Capitalism - by FireIceTalon - 12-08-2016, 04:05 AM
RE: Autism, exploitation and Capitalism - by Tal - 12-07-2016, 03:51 PM

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