11-12-2015, 01:29 PM
(11-12-2015, 08:55 AM)FireIce Wrote:Name calling always helps. Let's just make this personal, shall we? I'm exhausted by your claim to 100% truthiness, without ever defending your position. I point it out, and ask you to defend your claims, and you respond by saying it is up to me to debunk your philosophical leftist world-view. But, when it gets down to it, you have no realistic action plan. I don't see the point of tilting at clouds here.(11-11-2015, 11:50 PM)kandrathe Wrote: <yawn tunes out ignores rant...>No surprise there. Probably the best thing for right-wingers to do when confronted with inconvenient facts and overwhelming evidence that is contrary to their ideology. If there is anything about reactionaries that I've learned, its that they really do NOT like facts From my perspective, you remind me much of a climate change denier or bible thumper. No amount of facts or contradicting evidence will make these people change their minds, and the same seems true for apologists of the capitalist system.
Quote:You haven't, and cannot, produce even a shred of evidence to counter the fact that capital exploits labor, and therefore capitalists exploit workers through coercion.I believe I could get up early, make some doughnuts, brew some coffee and sell them for a small profit to commuters on their way to wage jobs. Or, a thousand other ways people earn money self-employed. Is that enough of a shred to explode your woe, woe, woe narrative?
It is pointless for you to come here to converse if you continue to frame our conversation thus;
- It is INDISPUTABLE fact...
- If there is anything about reactionaries that I've learned...
- If anything, the onus is on you to prove...
- Just face it...
I'm not going to "defend" capitalism, not because it is indefensible, but because I have no interest in doing so, and if I were so inclined, it wouldn't be with a person who doesn't debate. What we do here is irrational pseudo argument, but it is pointless since you offer nothing but unsubstantiated rhetoric, insults, aspersions, and vitriol.
The only solution you've proposed is violence;
Quote:"All capitalists and their state representatives are criminals, many of which probably deserve to drown in their own blood for their crimes against humanity."Joe Stalin would be so proud of you.