@kandrathe re: our discussion on the world being unsustainable as human population grows.
I've read a few interesting articles in the interim of our last discussion on the topic in this thread, and was surprised to find two separate articles in Popular Science today touching on these concepts in a very direct way. The first one I quoted back to Jester regarding plant growth on another planet. The second one regards mass extinction on our planet: How To Survive The Sixth Mass Extinction. It's ironic that the models predicted by this survey of the rate current species on our planet are going extinct match precisely my observations of other reports detailing humans mass consumption and waste destroying this planet. You can deny all you want in disbelief, but I think at this point the writing is on the wall here, and as I said before, without "intervention", nothing will stop this train until it is already too late, and as we both concluded, people generally don't desire change so until its past the point of no return, nothing will change.
You may not like what I'm about to say, however it’s sad but true: as a species, humans generally only think about themselves; I’ve always maintained this and brought forth plenty of empirical evidence during our conversations of altruism and the true motive behind every good deed. To change, it takes a great leader to see a greater future and stand up to the idiots and unite the people, and this --->always<--- requires the use of force. Looking back at history, you'd know there would not be any great nations, any industrial revolution, any progress had someone one day not stood up and said to themselves, "if we can unite these provinces, we can stop fighting and have peace and free trade and offer better protection from barbarian hordes", and thus many a king conquered for years, always to make their country great, even if that meant defeating a tribe of peaceful squatters just for their resources. All the great nations were formed due wholly to this very concept, and without it, I dare say we'd still be in the stone-age. And as you well know, the heroes and villains are one and the same - you're role depends on if you are the winning side or the losing side. As a related side-note and nod do Godwin, it’s ironic that Stalin is a hero in Russia after his well-known genocide tactics rivalling that of Hitler, yet Stalin accomplished much good for his country during his reign! Ironically, it can be surmised that had Hitler won the war, he’d also be a folk hero in Germany as Stalin is in Russia. History has a sick sense of humor.
So let’s bring it forward: what does this have to do with our current situation, you ask? This world will not change on its own, and to wait for everyone to "wake up" is to wait until it is already too late – our sixth great extinction will take us as well. The problem is we've lived in peace and passivity for so long, that the ebb and flow is in dire need of a dictator who will set the world straight though force to save the planet because the bitter truth is when someone tries to use logic or peace to move the mass in this day and age, their means are often twisted to a darker agenda if not directly subverted. I believe the world requires a strong political force to enrapture the world, rallying the majority against the greater evils of our generation(s) of decadence and wanton waste, with the cause of the day to destroy the modern world and those who oppose, or more specifically, those who oppose change. Those in power whose interest lie in money, and the effects of greed through (I hate to use one of FIT's monikers here) Capitalism will fight this battle to the bitter end defending their wealth, while those who want to help the world before it’s too late will fight against them. And with foresight, should this great dictator win and rechristen the world a planet of sharing, where there is plenty of food for everyone, where all products are grown in farms and everything recycled so our seas and forests are not depleted or polluted and our wildlife is let to flourish once again, this individual will be looked upon as a great revolutionary with magnanimous vision and foresight who not only saved the planet, but brought it into a new age out of the severe state of greed and copious consumption it was in. We need an "emperor" to bring balance to the force. Anyway, assuming the necrosis of our planet through felodese (what else could it be since we already know the truth about our planet and resources), I only see this solution as a possibility looking forward into my children's generation or possibly one more after that before we've passed the point of no return. The world will not change on its own. I should be a science fiction writer .
EDIT: Hahahaha, I made it sound as if I were saying Hitler did great things in his lifetime. Reworded to make sense!
I've read a few interesting articles in the interim of our last discussion on the topic in this thread, and was surprised to find two separate articles in Popular Science today touching on these concepts in a very direct way. The first one I quoted back to Jester regarding plant growth on another planet. The second one regards mass extinction on our planet: How To Survive The Sixth Mass Extinction. It's ironic that the models predicted by this survey of the rate current species on our planet are going extinct match precisely my observations of other reports detailing humans mass consumption and waste destroying this planet. You can deny all you want in disbelief, but I think at this point the writing is on the wall here, and as I said before, without "intervention", nothing will stop this train until it is already too late, and as we both concluded, people generally don't desire change so until its past the point of no return, nothing will change.
You may not like what I'm about to say, however it’s sad but true: as a species, humans generally only think about themselves; I’ve always maintained this and brought forth plenty of empirical evidence during our conversations of altruism and the true motive behind every good deed. To change, it takes a great leader to see a greater future and stand up to the idiots and unite the people, and this --->always<--- requires the use of force. Looking back at history, you'd know there would not be any great nations, any industrial revolution, any progress had someone one day not stood up and said to themselves, "if we can unite these provinces, we can stop fighting and have peace and free trade and offer better protection from barbarian hordes", and thus many a king conquered for years, always to make their country great, even if that meant defeating a tribe of peaceful squatters just for their resources. All the great nations were formed due wholly to this very concept, and without it, I dare say we'd still be in the stone-age. And as you well know, the heroes and villains are one and the same - you're role depends on if you are the winning side or the losing side. As a related side-note and nod do Godwin, it’s ironic that Stalin is a hero in Russia after his well-known genocide tactics rivalling that of Hitler, yet Stalin accomplished much good for his country during his reign! Ironically, it can be surmised that had Hitler won the war, he’d also be a folk hero in Germany as Stalin is in Russia. History has a sick sense of humor.
Yahoo Wrote:Stalin set goals for within a 5 year period. In that period, dissenters and people who were suspected of anything bad were sent to gulags. Gulags were basically work camps. He brutally used them to modernize Russia. Many dams and bridges were built connecting cities in the Soviet Union (it was a vast territory.) He built up the military and suppressed the many factions that vied for power in Russia bringing a sense of security. He united Russia against the so called "evils of capitalism". He brought Russia's economy up. In one instance, his countrymen were starving, yet he took the farmers' grain and exported it all for cash. What he did was brutal, but before he came in power, Russia was a hundred years behind the leading powers. In a period of just 15 or so years, he brought Russia to #2 in the world next to Britain and the U.S.
So let’s bring it forward: what does this have to do with our current situation, you ask? This world will not change on its own, and to wait for everyone to "wake up" is to wait until it is already too late – our sixth great extinction will take us as well. The problem is we've lived in peace and passivity for so long, that the ebb and flow is in dire need of a dictator who will set the world straight though force to save the planet because the bitter truth is when someone tries to use logic or peace to move the mass in this day and age, their means are often twisted to a darker agenda if not directly subverted. I believe the world requires a strong political force to enrapture the world, rallying the majority against the greater evils of our generation(s) of decadence and wanton waste, with the cause of the day to destroy the modern world and those who oppose, or more specifically, those who oppose change. Those in power whose interest lie in money, and the effects of greed through (I hate to use one of FIT's monikers here) Capitalism will fight this battle to the bitter end defending their wealth, while those who want to help the world before it’s too late will fight against them. And with foresight, should this great dictator win and rechristen the world a planet of sharing, where there is plenty of food for everyone, where all products are grown in farms and everything recycled so our seas and forests are not depleted or polluted and our wildlife is let to flourish once again, this individual will be looked upon as a great revolutionary with magnanimous vision and foresight who not only saved the planet, but brought it into a new age out of the severe state of greed and copious consumption it was in. We need an "emperor" to bring balance to the force. Anyway, assuming the necrosis of our planet through felodese (what else could it be since we already know the truth about our planet and resources), I only see this solution as a possibility looking forward into my children's generation or possibly one more after that before we've passed the point of no return. The world will not change on its own. I should be a science fiction writer .
EDIT: Hahahaha, I made it sound as if I were saying Hitler did great things in his lifetime. Reworded to make sense!
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