05-27-2015, 05:23 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-27-2015, 07:21 AM by FireIceTalon.)
Except, no one said anything about "entitlement" in this situation. Entitlement is just another buzz-word anyway, much like the words "freedom" or "democracy" are in the context of the current order of things.
The point is, the whole notion of having to choose your seats at the time of purchase being some sort of infringement upon your "freedom" (however you wish to define that word, whether in a libertarian context or otherwise) is utterly absurd.
If anything, having to select your seats beforehand is actually AN ADVANTAGE, since you can see what seats are already taken and back out of the transaction if only the front row is left (unless of course, you are in that tiny minority of people who either enjoys or does not mind sitting in the very front row). As opposed to not having to select them, and going into the theater to find that only shitty seats are remaining and being even more pissed off.
I am certainly no liberal and will not defend them. However, it is libertarians who are usually the ones that seem to appeal to "freedom". Although in most cases, when they say freedom, they mean freedom for THEMSELVES or their privileged position in society, rather than "freedom" for others.
But you want to talk about entitlement? You really want to go there, huh? Lets go there!
You are absolutely right, Entitlement in one sense is a disease - the capitalist class who thinks they are entitled to profits (unpaid labor of the working class), entitled to pay less taxes than the very same people they exploit, entitled to put their money in off-shore bank accounts to ensure that the former happens, entitled to have their losses socialized because they know the working class will be forced to pick up the slack in the form of reduced wages and austerity everytime capitalism falls on its ass, entitled to their religious freedom that allows them to discriminate against same-sex couples and have control over a woman's vagina instead of the woman having control of it herself, and in general subject the rest of society to their bullshit subjective morality. And the list goes on.
Yet the people who demand the basic necessities of life in order to both survive and have a decent quality of life - food, shelter, water, education, and access to decent healthcare are the somehow the ones who are entitled. Go figure.
If I had a dollar for every right-winger or Baby boomer that said my generation or the one after was part of the "entitlement generation", I would be able to purchase a fucking house in the market that THEIR generation ruined and crashed in 2008. How ironic. My generation has and will have a lower standard of living than the Baby boomers, yet somehow we are the "entitlement generation". Really now?
The REAL entitled, welfare queens of society: the capitalists.
I am not being intellectually dishonest, because I am not targeting any particular proponent of libertarian ideology and judging the entire ideology off that person, but rather targeting what the ideology itself is composed of and what its premise is structured around, independent of any major libertarian figures. It would be akin to me attacking fascism because Mussolini or Hitler were fascists. Ideology as an larger general abstract concept, is a type of false consciousness. But we are talking specifically about libertarian ideology right now, which is what this girl was indirectly appealing to even if she didn't come out and say she was a libertarian. It's the same concept as a fascist saying that some races are superior to others, without actually coming out and saying they are a fascist. It still appeals to fascist ideology regardless.
Liberals have their own problems and faults, believe me, but screaming about the loss of freedom and society becoming more controlled by big gubbament is certainly more of a libertarian-like view than it is a liberal one. Liberals and non-libertarian right wingers love big government (however much they wish to deny it). But I don't see liberals spouting crazy conspiracy theories about some big, one world govt takeover of society, or that we are already living under socialism - these are mostly libertarian types that say this sort of stuff. Sorry man, but its true. Liberals spout other types of crap, but that is another discussion.
I don't know, I guess I'm just tired of people in the first world bitching about trivial first world problems, (like picking seats in a movie theater), when there are so many bigger problems in the world, especially the 3rd world where most people are lucky to get the food they need to survive let alone go to a movie theater. *shrugs* But that's capitalism for ya - class oppression and ruling class indoctrination in the home country, imperialism and counter-terrorism abroad.
The point is, the whole notion of having to choose your seats at the time of purchase being some sort of infringement upon your "freedom" (however you wish to define that word, whether in a libertarian context or otherwise) is utterly absurd.
If anything, having to select your seats beforehand is actually AN ADVANTAGE, since you can see what seats are already taken and back out of the transaction if only the front row is left (unless of course, you are in that tiny minority of people who either enjoys or does not mind sitting in the very front row). As opposed to not having to select them, and going into the theater to find that only shitty seats are remaining and being even more pissed off.
I am certainly no liberal and will not defend them. However, it is libertarians who are usually the ones that seem to appeal to "freedom". Although in most cases, when they say freedom, they mean freedom for THEMSELVES or their privileged position in society, rather than "freedom" for others.
But you want to talk about entitlement? You really want to go there, huh? Lets go there!
You are absolutely right, Entitlement in one sense is a disease - the capitalist class who thinks they are entitled to profits (unpaid labor of the working class), entitled to pay less taxes than the very same people they exploit, entitled to put their money in off-shore bank accounts to ensure that the former happens, entitled to have their losses socialized because they know the working class will be forced to pick up the slack in the form of reduced wages and austerity everytime capitalism falls on its ass, entitled to their religious freedom that allows them to discriminate against same-sex couples and have control over a woman's vagina instead of the woman having control of it herself, and in general subject the rest of society to their bullshit subjective morality. And the list goes on.
Yet the people who demand the basic necessities of life in order to both survive and have a decent quality of life - food, shelter, water, education, and access to decent healthcare are the somehow the ones who are entitled. Go figure.
If I had a dollar for every right-winger or Baby boomer that said my generation or the one after was part of the "entitlement generation", I would be able to purchase a fucking house in the market that THEIR generation ruined and crashed in 2008. How ironic. My generation has and will have a lower standard of living than the Baby boomers, yet somehow we are the "entitlement generation". Really now?
The REAL entitled, welfare queens of society: the capitalists.
I am not being intellectually dishonest, because I am not targeting any particular proponent of libertarian ideology and judging the entire ideology off that person, but rather targeting what the ideology itself is composed of and what its premise is structured around, independent of any major libertarian figures. It would be akin to me attacking fascism because Mussolini or Hitler were fascists. Ideology as an larger general abstract concept, is a type of false consciousness. But we are talking specifically about libertarian ideology right now, which is what this girl was indirectly appealing to even if she didn't come out and say she was a libertarian. It's the same concept as a fascist saying that some races are superior to others, without actually coming out and saying they are a fascist. It still appeals to fascist ideology regardless.
Liberals have their own problems and faults, believe me, but screaming about the loss of freedom and society becoming more controlled by big gubbament is certainly more of a libertarian-like view than it is a liberal one. Liberals and non-libertarian right wingers love big government (however much they wish to deny it). But I don't see liberals spouting crazy conspiracy theories about some big, one world govt takeover of society, or that we are already living under socialism - these are mostly libertarian types that say this sort of stuff. Sorry man, but its true. Liberals spout other types of crap, but that is another discussion.
I don't know, I guess I'm just tired of people in the first world bitching about trivial first world problems, (like picking seats in a movie theater), when there are so many bigger problems in the world, especially the 3rd world where most people are lucky to get the food they need to survive let alone go to a movie theater. *shrugs* But that's capitalism for ya - class oppression and ruling class indoctrination in the home country, imperialism and counter-terrorism abroad.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (on capitalist laws and institutions)