Just another reason to hate religious extremists and organized religion in general...

[shoju]

Two stopped clocks walks into a bar. One clock reads as 11:59, and claims he's 11:59 PM. The other clock reads as 12:01, and claims he's 12:01 AM. One says they're EXTREME!!11, while the other says they're RADICAL!!11.

Anyhow the 2 stopped clocks ordered their drinks, and starts arguing which clock is closer to the ULTIMATE TRUTH, which is an old VCR that constantly flashes 12:00. No AM or PM, just 12:00...12:00...12:00.

The 2 stopped clocks become increasingly loud and annoying to the other patrons, to the point where the bartender steps in and asks what's the problem.

The bartender listens to the two stopped clocks arguments, and says, ' you're both one minute apart from each other. Besides you two act the same way, like a bunch of jackasses. If you can't settle down, you can't stay in this bar. So what's it going to be gentlemen?'

The 2 stopped clock looked stunned, and both became livid. They both say the two can not be further apart. Both hissy fitted, 'It's not one minute apart! There's nearly 12 hours difference between us!' 'It's literally night and day!'

The bartender shakes his head and does a double face palm, and wonders why he has a bar that only attracts customers such as stopped clocks, a horse, a priest a rabbi and a minister.

(edited fix for AM\PM. I blame Jesus. And KKKapitalizm.)

Part of me wonders if this post is in some way a wise and witty commentary about FiT and I? Or, maybe I'm just reading too much into it.

But back on topic of where this thread is heading.

I'm not sure I'm an atheist. I'm not sure I'm a believer either. There are days I believe in god, there are days I'm positive there is no God, there are days that I'm pretty sure that Constantine (of comic, and movie fame) hits the nail on the head. We are an ant farm being controlled by two angry kids. And there are days I'm very confident that God is real, and that I'd punch him in his face, if given the opportunity.

That's probably a lot to do with my upbringing.

I don't have a problem with people who are believers. I'm glad that you have found faith in something.

I don't have a problem with nonbelievers. I'm glad that you have found what you feel to be "the truth".

The problem I have, is with people who say things like the original post, or the WBC mission statement, or the Flat World Society, or Fundamentalist Christians, Muslims screaming about the evils of the world, and try to rule all with it.

Because life isn't nice, and pretty, and easy to put into boxes that fit neatly on shelves. It's life. And these are human beings. Complex, free thinking (at times), beings that have a completely different lens, and perspective on the world. Culture, Genes, Socioeconomical, race, factors shape this lens that each person views the world in.

When we are blindsided by our own morals, views, etc... (Our Lens) to the point where we cannot fathom a society that accepts those of dissenting opinions, we are lost.

I don't agree with FiT, and his monochromatic view of how things should be, I don't agree with some of our religious members either. I've been called a hater of christians, and a follower of what the mainstream media shoves down my throat by both sides.

But that's ok. This is an internet forum, where people of multiple cultures, backgrounds, ideologies, etc... come together. I don't expect I'm going to fall in line with people, because I don't think I, or anyone else on this board, will find someone who has the same Lens with which they view the world.

But, even I, grow tired of hearing the same things over and over and over.