06-07-2013, 05:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-07-2013, 06:08 PM by FireIceTalon.)
Quote:Is it me, or is atheism turning into a zealous religion these days?
Impossible, since religions presuppose a belief in the supernatural, and have a specific set/system of values and doctrines. Atheism lacks such metaphysical component as well as not being an organized system of specific agendas; and therefore by default cannot be a religion. People calling it one are usually religious zealots like the idiot in the video I posted who are so caught up in their own dogmatic and subjective moral philosophy that they cannot imagine that there are people out there who believe in no god(s).
Quote:Also gauging atheist fervor from FIT may not be the best selection of data points.
Except I'm not promoting atheism in this thread, so much as I'm attacking organized religion and its brainwashed, hypocritical disciples that try to force their moral horse crap on others. If I would have been that husband in the video, I'd been like "go preach your bullshit Christian philosophy to someone who cares and leave me and my family the fuck alone". You don't typically see atheists going around to churches and telling them how religion is backwards, ignorant or stupid (like you do religious nutjobs going around and trying to covert people to their belief system) - that's the difference. I'm not saying the guy in this video should become an atheist, I'm saying he should leave people the hell alone and spare them from his nonsense. They don't wanna hear it. I don't go around in real life spouting my atheist (or Marxist for that matter) views to people. If I'm in a social setting and it comes up in discussion, fine, but I don't seek out people to go and preach to.
Also, I wouldn't say atheism has become accepted in the mainstream yet. In many countries you can get killed if you openly declare you are atheist (think many places in the Mid East), and even in more "tolerant" societies like the U.S. that operate on a more secular level, atheists are still scorned upon socially and if you want to run for a high office and are atheist, forget it - you have no chance. Its slowly becoming more acceptable to be openly atheist, but we ain't there yet. I forget the article I posted, because it was some time ago, but I remember finding a poll where having a Muslim president here would be more acceptable to most Americans than having an atheist one (which is all the more amazing since Islamaphobia is the number one political scapegoat used in Western society these days).
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)