Criminal Deeds

[kandrathe]

I also have the right to defend myself...I think most people in most countries have that. I just don't find a 6 year old stands much of a chance against a guy with a semi-automatic rifle. It is great the kid has the right, but practically that is not worth anything.

A 6 year old, or many adults don't stand much of a chance (unarmed) against a 230 lb raving sociopath with a knife, or baseball bat either.

SO what the NRA suggest is armed guards at schools (all of the time). I guess they also suggest this for firemen, etc. etc. etc. So in what sense does that make a society safer?

If you are not going to deal with the insanity issue in the society, then the alternative is to have designated armed defenders. We do that now so that not everyone needs to pack a gun, and we call them police.

Because of a fear your government wants to harm you you start creating more and more government jobs (or in the US case you of course use private companies) that require more and more armed people around.....is this not just the thing you want to prevent?

I don't want the needed armed federal government agents (tsa, fbi, cia, etc.) targeting normal US civilians. The power to police is reserved to the localities and states.

What would tell you that the guy that has to protect your kids isn't a bit unstable and wants to kill people himself??

Same as for anyone else. His family, friends, and coworkers would most likely know if he were a danger to society. How many of these past incidents were committed by people in some type of psychiatric care?

So in order to argue against what I said you mention even older documents? Most of which don't mention heavy automatic weaponry I presume.

You said it was "strange" to "base the way you set up a country on a few 100 year old document". I said, it's not based on a 100 year old document. It's based upon the collected wisdom of political and social philosophy spanning recorded civilization.

Again, it seems to me a religious zeal with which NRA people defend this right. I guess you agree with me that many life rules out of the bible and similar documents are very much based on the times in which they were written (the not eating pork for example, because of diseases).

They feel that with out the "power" of the 2nd amendment, the rest of our rights would not be defendable. There was a reason that the 1st amendment is 1st, and the 2nd is next.

To understand what ended up in the US constitution, you should look to the pre-existing individual State charters. Much of the US bill of rights is derived from the State of Virginia's bill of rights penned by George Mason.

Which has written; " That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power."

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WTF does this word mean anyway (rhetorical question)?

It hardly surprises me at all that you don't understand it.