Communist swine execute general with a mortar round

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The fact people live better now has NOTHING to do with capitalism or capitalists becoming more humane, moral, or better - and everything to do with that such improvements came through struggle, worker movements, solidarity, and of course, labor unions - which eliminated child labor, shortened the work day some, and gave them weekends.

The word "Fact" must have a different definition in your dictionary.

Marxism is not "labor unions" and vice versa. As the son of a Teamster, let me tell you about the thrashing I received the day I suggested to my father that it might be better to be red, than dead. The DFL is not the CPUSA (which has fallen to about 2000 members).

I just familiarized myself with the origins of the National Child Labor Committee and while there was prominent mention of clergy, social reformers and abolitionists, I saw little mention of it being driven by labor unions. Even Mother Jones, after fighting on behalf of better wages for the children in the mills, sent them back after their strike demands were met. Sure, they fought for the working conditions of all workers, even the children. But, they wanted them on the payrolls as much as the employers.

If you look at Child Labor around the world today, it is aligned solidly with family poverty. Spend some time in a border town, south of the Mexican border and see how the children live there. Lifting people out of poverty ends many evils of society including child labor. Next, you'll claim labor unions ended slavery in the US.

Here is the government's historical perspective; http://www.bls.gov/opub/rylf/pdf/chapter2.pdf

The eight hour day movement began in England, however in the US; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour...ted_States

The limit to a ten hour day began decades before Marx wrote anything. The socialist movement in the US didn't gather political momentum until the 1910's to 1920's. It was well after the labor unrest in the US of the late 1800's dominated by The Knights of Labor; "The Knights promoted the social and cultural uplift of the workingman, rejected Socialism and radicalism, demanded the eight-hour day, and promoted the producers ethic of republicanism."

So, let's just respect my father's wishes here and not try to convolute what you are, with what he fought for his entire life. He was dedicated to his union and his employers, and the two concepts are not incompatible.