10-30-2012, 02:00 PM
(10-29-2012, 08:38 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Comrade, capitalism or class antagonist societies in general.... the rest of a pro-marxist post that is essentially the same drivel that I've been hearing for months, wrapped up in a new bow for all the lounge to see
So.... You're saying that
Muslim Extremists
Racist Africans warring with other Racist Africans
Warring African Tribes
Gross Poverty in Africa
Underdeveloped Countries
and on and on and on is all a result of capitalism?
I'll give you that there is a great point of greed and capitalism ruining the lives of people, and that it does leave a wake of destruction, but it's not the cause of all the world's evil, and starvation. The conditions in Africa aren't purely because of being exploited. That is disingenuous to the real struggles that are happening there, and the people who spend their lifetimes working to improve it. The conditions in the middle east aren't purely capitalist wrought either. There is a healthy dose of extremist religious views, and a power struggle of politics there. That isn't Capitalism.
I'm sure you find calling people comrade to be a hoot. I'm not your Comrade, but keep on keeping on I guess? Just another way to scream out
I'M A MARXIST WHO THINKS I'M BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I THINK THAT MY SYSTEM THAT I READ ABOUT IS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE!
IF IT IS EVIL, BLAME IT ON CAPITALISM!
IF IT IS SOMEONE OR SOME PART IN/OF THE GOVERNMENT WHO MAY HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG, CALL THEM FACIST!
IF IT IS RELIGION CALL IT A FAIRY TALE!
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT BEFORE CLASS SOCIETIES, WE ALL HAD A PSEUDO COMMUNIST LIFE!*
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT WHEN THEY CALL THEMSELVES COMMUNIST, THEY AREN'T!**
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT MARXISM IS SCIENCE!***
* Even though we have evidence that even ancient groups of people had "leaders" and "chiefs" and Despot societies, which would at least make for 2 classes. The ruler (and family) and everyone else.
** I love it when you use this argument. It's the "perfect" rebuttal so that Communism can't be critiqued. No one has ever done it right, they aren't really communist. That's not how it works. It doesn't matter what they say.
That reminds me of what a professor once said in college. Communism is fantastic as a theory. But it fails in implementation, because it requires a society devoid so many things that are inherent in a society in the modern world.
*** This also made me laugh, out loud, quite loud, for some time. The only people who believe that marxism is a science, are marxists. Almost everyone else is going to call it an economic and sociopolitical worldview, pioneered by a pair of Philosophers
Sorry man, I tire of seeing the same things all things all the time, and your arguments are so close to the same thing about everything that it's just boring me. I read stuff that you posted for a while, because I hadn't met a Marxist since I was in college, about 12 years ago.
It's an old tired act now. Sort of like that show you watched on TV that was interesting and kept your attention for a season or two, but then in the 3rd season, you realized that there was no "push" to keep moving forward about anything, it was the same things, with new packaging.
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