Ohio miners forced to attend Romney rally without pay...
(09-14-2012, 02:52 PM)kandrathe Wrote: I think you are talking about prices. I'm not really.

Frankly the minute you hauled out your bizarre and fundamentally wrong tech example, I don't know what you are talking about. Maybe your example is from a fictional setting from your unwritten novel 'Kandrathia', where 64 kb of memory is the highest level produced, ever.

Where compu-teknologie increases in power along with size and cost, until only kings, conglomerate kingdoms, lofty ivory tower monasteries, and deep secret military bunkers can afford it. Maybe in that divergent fictional setting, what you spieled out is true.

In -this- world where you and I are currently residing, it's not.

Quote: I'm talking about how the relative aggregate change in price is measured and communicated.

Then do so. Just do yourself a huge favour and instead of clamping on to an idea first, then trying to make reality fit, or inventing a bizarre hypothetical version of reality.

Look at the real life data first.


Quote:Otherwise, we'd experience price deflation. The nightmare Jester warns about is that our economy is based upon growth. The fear is that as prices fall, profits evaporate and producers would start to go bankrupt. The resulting loss of jobs results in less consumer money to buy things, resulting in less demand for products and further falling prices, and then more layoffs as the entire structure of production of goods and services dismantles itself.

I can follow the beginning of your sentence. Around halfway, I'm less convinced, simply because things are not that simplistic and market reality is much more in flux compared to the past. Things like disruptive technology can play a bigger and more frequent part, the upheaval seems to be largely from previous kings of the hill, who will fight tooth and nail against an improvement if it means a threat to their kingdom.

As for what can cause massive unrest, there's many ways to light a powder keg. Slow or fast, any of them can and will work once a critical tipping point has been reached.

I'm not going to debate the WW2 causes, though I will throw in that a little thing called WW1 had a bit to do with it as well IIRC. I think it was a shooting of someone during a Franz Ferdinand concert at Duke university or something.


Quote:So, is there a Big Lieā„¢? Sort of... through the ignorance of the people, their inability or unwillingness to understand complicated topics, and the failure of leadership to communicate what is happening.

Big Lie? Sort of? Is that anything like the one where someone is trying to convince me that a 2012 entry level computer would cost more compared to a 1990's era machine? Tongue

Quote:We are mortgaging ourselves and future into feudalism.

Whenever I go to home despot\lowes, I spend a fair amount of time in their hand tools department. And I think to myself, which stuff would help me in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

That 80$, titanium alloy and vibration dampened composite handle hammer, would make an awesome melee weapon vs zombies. It's light, balanced well, packs a wallop, but pricy. But when the zombie wave hits, I'd rather have that over a sack of dollars.

I also think whether aluminum is better than mild steel for my scale armor leather jacket\tunic. The aluminum is not soda can thin, but fairly thick gauge. It would seem zombie bite resistant enough, and light. Mild steel is cheaper, but it's much heavier and corrodes easily without some anti rust treatment. Kevlar\Aramid would probably be best if cost is not an issue, but it is. I'm working with a realistic budget here, and I don't know how to work with Kevlar fibers.

So with that in mind, please at least consider, what I'm saying.

Get. Real.

It's good to have some skeptical thinking. It's good to prepare for the worst while hoping for the best. It's good to develop an awareness for lies, damned lies, and statistics that anyone including the oh so hated big gubment tries to give you.

But don't let it consume you. Getting obsessed over it will be at best, chicken little shit. At worst, you'll start sounding like a Unabomber manifesto.
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RE: Ohio miners forced to attend Romney rally without pay... - by Hammerskjold - 09-16-2012, 01:26 AM

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