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(06-05-2012, 06:13 PM)eppie Wrote: Just include the impact on our planet in the price of goods, and you can continue with capitalism.
I think this is as unworkable as is Carbon Trading. There will always be fudging on the value and definition of "pollution". I really believe we need to enforce a zero-sum "leave it as you found it" solution, or risk having continuous surprises of swindles at the environments (commons) expense.

Quote:Capitalism as it is now is a system that will stop working, because it only works when people consume more and more. It favour having more people around and it favours there being poor and rich areas, where the poor areas are used to deplete of natural resources because the people living there have not time to protest like we do in the west because they are concerned if they can feed their children the next day.
Don't conflate consumerism with capitalism. Capitalism works fine without population growth, and the exploitation of the environment. Observe, the environmental differences as news moves from paper to the Internet. Consider some what isolated wealthy nations with low population growth such as Switzerland (doubles every 95 years). The unrestrained excess of wanton consumerism is killing us.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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Invaders ! - by ShadowHM - 12-10-2009, 08:37 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by ShadowHM - 03-08-2011, 09:49 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 03-09-2011, 02:18 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by LavCat - 03-09-2011, 05:28 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 03-09-2011, 05:55 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by ShadowHM - 05-29-2012, 05:44 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 05-29-2012, 07:31 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by shoju - 05-29-2012, 05:58 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 05-29-2012, 06:53 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by LochnarITB - 05-29-2012, 07:43 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 05-29-2012, 08:30 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by RiotInferno - 06-01-2012, 07:46 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by eppie - 06-02-2012, 12:01 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by Nystul - 06-03-2012, 08:30 AM
RE: Invaders ! - by eppie - 06-03-2012, 10:33 AM
RE: Invaders ! - by shoju - 05-29-2012, 07:23 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by shoju - 06-04-2012, 01:11 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by RiotInferno - 06-04-2012, 02:08 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 06-04-2012, 10:39 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by eppie - 06-05-2012, 08:11 AM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 06-05-2012, 03:30 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by Hammerskjold - 06-07-2012, 09:08 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by RiotInferno - 06-05-2012, 03:39 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by eppie - 06-05-2012, 06:13 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 06-05-2012, 06:44 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by Jester - 06-09-2012, 12:56 AM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 06-09-2012, 04:37 AM
RE: Invaders ! - by shoju - 06-05-2012, 01:02 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by eppie - 06-05-2012, 01:34 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by shoju - 06-05-2012, 01:51 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by Kevin - 06-05-2012, 02:20 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by shoju - 06-05-2012, 04:28 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 06-05-2012, 05:27 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by shoju - 06-05-2012, 05:31 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by RiotInferno - 06-05-2012, 05:58 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by LochnarITB - 06-05-2012, 06:49 PM
RE: Invaders ! - by kandrathe - 06-06-2012, 12:44 AM
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