A few ideas of how to save D3
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(05-27-2012, 05:52 AM)Chesspiece_face Wrote:
(05-27-2012, 05:39 AM)RedRadical Wrote: I'd also like to point out how just 2 days ago, people were jumping on me saying I was wrong about this flaw, that I'm full of shit, yada yada yada just a day or two ago, now many are seeing I was right after all. Told ya so. And I didnt even need to be in Inferno to know this, cause the problem starts in Hell difficulty - Inferno just confirms the issue. I could probably work around the issue by simply farming the early quests of Act 1, build up a huge wealth of gold and hit up the AH, but is it worth the time and frustration? I have my doubts, to say the least.

And here I am, back again to tell you that you are full of shit. Because this is not what you were arguing at all. You are just taking issues inherant in Inferno difficulty and shoehorning it on to your original statements which have nothing to do with this to prove your point. It's a straw man argument.

Because you can't understand even the stuff you yourself write I'll break it down for you:

1. You say it is impossible to play in Hell difficulty without using the auction house.

People refute that.

2. You say that the only way you can compete in Hell difficulty is with items gained in Hell difficulty.

People refute that.

3. You bring up arbitrary stat limits that an individual must gain to be effective in Hell.

People both refute that as well as inform you that the stat limits you pulled out of your ass are entirely obtainable with gear gained in Normal and Nightmare.

4. After all this has been refuted and you are told if you don't have gear good enough for Hell difficulty that you should go back and farm you complain that you would not get good Xp from doing that.

To which people reply that you may just need to make that hard choice if your gear really isn't good enough.

5. Then you pull more random numbers out of your ass about how rare the items you would need are and that it's not worth your time.

Your original line or argument has absolutely nothing to do with Inferno difficulty and the issues that arise with it. And there are multiple examples of people playing through Hell right now (in Hardcore no less) that prove your points are falacious. There are many valid reasons to be dissatisfied with the item system in D3 right now. You don't need to make up BS to argue your dissatisfaction

All your so-called "refutes" are pure anecdotal evidence (minority) that flies in the face of the EMPIRICAL evidence (majority experience). I had to use the AH to get through hell mode, and almost every other person I have come across, both forum and in game, did as well. Difficulty in relation to the loot system is BROKEN. You can try to pull any fallacy out of your ass that you like, and you will still be wrong at the end of the day. You have not disproved ANYTHING. It is YOU who is full of shit, not me. You have 0 clue as to what the fuck you are talking about. Why do I get the feeling you are one of those trolls that hasn't even got to hell mode (let alone Inferno) and tries to act like your an expert on the matter?

My ultimate point is that the end game is frustrating, tedious, and no fun at all. You have not disproved this, not even close. This thread, along with the million of other threads on this very topic on Diablo Inc and Blizz forums are indication that I am right. But according to your logic, it's just me. Yea, right.

You are wrong. Period. Fact. End of Story. Neeeeeeext.
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A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-25-2012, 06:28 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Concillian - 05-25-2012, 08:49 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Nystul - 05-25-2012, 09:09 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Concillian - 05-25-2012, 09:30 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-26-2012, 01:31 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Roland - 05-26-2012, 02:39 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Treesh - 05-26-2012, 02:47 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by RTM - 05-26-2012, 03:12 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Roland - 05-26-2012, 03:10 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Treesh - 05-26-2012, 04:15 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Treesh - 05-26-2012, 05:00 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by FoxBat - 05-26-2012, 11:53 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Roland - 05-26-2012, 04:45 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by RTM - 05-26-2012, 02:14 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by DeeBye - 05-26-2012, 03:17 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by RTM - 05-26-2012, 01:33 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-26-2012, 09:26 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MonTy - 05-26-2012, 11:21 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Lissa - 05-26-2012, 11:29 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MonTy - 05-26-2012, 11:58 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Roland - 05-27-2012, 03:54 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Skandranon - 05-27-2012, 01:54 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MonTy - 05-27-2012, 02:04 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Mavfin - 05-27-2012, 02:40 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Skandranon - 05-27-2012, 04:11 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-29-2012, 05:47 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by kandrathe - 05-29-2012, 08:45 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by LochnarITB - 05-29-2012, 09:00 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-29-2012, 09:38 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Jester - 05-29-2012, 09:46 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Mavfin - 05-29-2012, 09:52 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-29-2012, 10:06 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Mavfin - 05-29-2012, 10:15 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-29-2012, 11:05 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by kandrathe - 05-29-2012, 11:20 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-29-2012, 11:36 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Skandranon - 05-27-2012, 04:54 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-27-2012, 12:42 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by FoxBat - 05-27-2012, 02:30 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by FireIceTalon - 05-27-2012, 05:59 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Taelas - 05-27-2012, 06:03 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by LochnarITB - 05-27-2012, 07:16 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ruvanal - 05-27-2012, 11:58 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Taelas - 05-27-2012, 01:29 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-27-2012, 07:48 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Mavfin - 05-27-2012, 04:34 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-27-2012, 10:47 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-28-2012, 08:37 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MonTy - 05-27-2012, 08:54 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MMAgCh - 05-27-2012, 10:22 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MonTy - 05-27-2012, 10:32 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Bolty - 05-28-2012, 06:15 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-28-2012, 07:10 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Tal - 05-29-2012, 02:49 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by smegged - 05-29-2012, 08:48 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by MongoJerry - 05-29-2012, 10:20 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by smegged - 05-29-2012, 10:39 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Jester - 05-29-2012, 11:27 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Jester - 05-29-2012, 02:05 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by smegged - 05-29-2012, 12:15 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Yricyn - 05-29-2012, 07:34 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Mavfin - 05-29-2012, 07:42 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-30-2012, 12:03 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Treesh - 05-30-2012, 12:14 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by NuurAbSaal - 05-30-2012, 01:08 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-30-2012, 04:39 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Kevin - 05-30-2012, 06:14 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by kandrathe - 05-30-2012, 06:38 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Kevin - 05-30-2012, 07:37 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by kandrathe - 05-31-2012, 01:39 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 05-31-2012, 04:16 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by kandrathe - 05-31-2012, 06:47 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Tal - 05-31-2012, 07:02 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Taelas - 05-30-2012, 12:07 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Mavfin - 05-30-2012, 05:21 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Mavfin - 05-31-2012, 07:54 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 06-01-2012, 07:22 AM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by kandrathe - 06-01-2012, 08:20 PM
RE: A few ideas of how to save D3 - by Ashock - 06-01-2012, 09:41 PM

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