This is why Westboro Baptist Church is a joke
(10-13-2011, 04:31 PM)kandrathe Wrote: Yeah, the Old Testament, can seem inconsistent, which is why most Christians only use it as a reference. Understand too, that it is describes the journey of an ever changing relationship between man and God. Each time there is an agreement, man fails, and then God needs to come up with a new deal (covenant) to redeem his fallen creation.

There you go again referencing information pastors have told you without actually reading the bible or historical documents. To even bother teaching the Christian version of "creationism" in school, maybe the Judeo-Christen faith would like to amend exactly how "god" created all things in the first place? If we're talking science of god here, I'm sure we can agree that there should be some sort of consistency in the theory, right?
Quote:Order of creation / Multiple Gods, Man
GENESIS 1:1 to 1:31 (the order of creation)
Day 1: Sky, Earth, light (GEN 1:3)
Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(GEN 1:4 to 1:10)
Day 3: Plants (GEN 1:11 to 1:12)
Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (GEN 1:14 to 1:19)
Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (GEN 1:20 to 1:23)
Day 6: Land animals and human(s) [plural form of man] (GEN 1:24 to 1:29)
Day 7: Happy at his creation (GEN 1:30)

GENESIS 2:4 to 2:23 (the order of creation)
1st: Earth and heavens (misty)(GEN 2:4 to 2:6)
2nd: Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth) (GEN 2:7)
3rd: Plants (GEN 2:8 to 2:17)
4th: Animals (2:18 to 2:20)
5th: Eve, the first woman (from Adam's rib) (2:21 to 2:23)

Summary, Book: Genesis is about the creation of all things, the fall of man, and the lives and times of few generations past Adam. Jewish tradition says Moses wrote Genesis as a sheep herder around (1688 BC). History says the Yahwist, Elohist, and the Priest wrote and compiled parts of Genesis at (950 BC), and again in (400 BC). Please read the link to “how Genesis came to be” in “The Yahwist Tradition” of the History of the Bible section to understand more about Genesis.

Summary, Chapter 1 & 2: Elohim or God is creating the Earth, sky, and all living things.

COMMENT: Of first note is the discrepancies of creation between the two chapters in Genesis; the order of creation is completely different in both versions. Second, in Genesis 1, the deity is referred to as “Elohim” which is a plural of Eloah in the Hebrew, thus the literal translation of “the Gods”. In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done saying after each step “it was good” after each of their labors, and rests on the seventh day feeling satisfied. In Genesis 2, God fixes things up as he goes; the first man is lonely and is not satisfied with the animals God gave him, so God creates a woman for him, and so on an so fourth; God has to fix up his creation as he goes. Lastly, of minor note in Genesis 1, you might also have noticed that there are “days”, “evenings”, and “mornings” before the Sun was created on the fourth day.

Besides, you are aware that almost all of the stories in the old testament were taken from other cultures in the Mesopotamia area, stories that are hundreds to even thousands of years older than the time the Israelites fled captivity in Egypt, correct? You make it sound as if all their "lessons" were taught by God and not stolen from other cultures, but this is simply incorrect. The Israelites took out any reference to the multiple gods from the Mesopotamia stories and injected their own jargon. Sure, they kept many records about their journey for 40-years, and their laws if that is to what you where refering, but that is not in dispute. Check out this link also while your at it.

Not trying to start a fight, you and I are over the subject of rather religion should in in schools or not. Just pointing out some serious flaws in your logic in that last post.
"The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which he has attained liberation from the self." -Albert Einsetin
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RE: This is why Westboro Baptist Church is a joke - by Taem - 10-13-2011, 06:02 PM

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