10-12-2011, 01:37 AM
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to paint you as a villain, nor ignorant. My beef is not with you directly, but what I perceive to be your philosophy on religion in school. What I've been posting has been in response to what I've been getting back from you; I guess you could say I was using "your own words against you," but this sounds accusatory. I'm not trying to pick a fight. The reality is, I simply don't think we are going to agree on this subject. The parts I no longer wish to discuss I did not quote.
You are correct, and I often don't realize I do it when I talk (or when I write apparently). I suppose I should apologize to you for setting the [obvious] bait, and to boot, with an unsubstantiated claim. While I was using the concept of the Voodoo religion to make a point, I shouldn't have used it the way I did, and regardless of what I said, my intent was not to make you out to sound ignorant. Please don't feel that way because I do enjoy our discussions, and feel you are a very intelligent person.
A beautiful thought. One I agree with in principle, but not logistically.
I guess I started this, but I'll also end it right here! I never suggested you stop talking. I'm glad your comfortable enough to speak your mind, and that we live in a country in which we can do such a thing. I enjoy our discussions. What I was insinuating seemed obvious to me, but is not worth pursuing any further. Let this part of the conversation die here.
I am not prejudiced toward any religion in particular. This is a pretty broad statement you accuse me of. I'm asking that you clarify your position in assuming I am prejudiced towards either you or some faith in particular.
For clairification purposes, I'm adding a quick comment here, but I don't wish to discuss this anymore in this thread please: I'll reiterate that my beef is with religion in schools, not with any religion in particular.
This mudslinging stops here! My assertions on your behavior in the attempts at furthering my points were rude and perhaps even juvenile, I won't deny it, but I was not calling your character into question, nor claiming to know the correct answer to religion in schools, or some magical zen that everyone must attain. I'm feeling very frustrated and upset with you that you would twist my words to say such things, and essentially take what I'm saying and turn it into your own personal joke. Your words directly affected me.
This particular vain of the discussion can only lead to more name-calling and baseless accusations - lets agree to end it here!
(10-11-2011, 08:58 PM)kandrathe Wrote: I was making a point in how silly things get when you look into the realities, rather than the Hollywood hype. I guess you missed my nuance. I attempted to do some research on how prevalent voodoo was in Louisiana, or the entire US. I came up empty, and so I asked you to clarify rather than assume you were trying to "horrify me" with the "evil practice of voodoo". But, my supposition is/was that you were attempting to set a trap for me. But, I didn't fall into your alarmist trap,
You are correct, and I often don't realize I do it when I talk (or when I write apparently). I suppose I should apologize to you for setting the [obvious] bait, and to boot, with an unsubstantiated claim. While I was using the concept of the Voodoo religion to make a point, I shouldn't have used it the way I did, and regardless of what I said, my intent was not to make you out to sound ignorant. Please don't feel that way because I do enjoy our discussions, and feel you are a very intelligent person.
Quote:Actually, I'm opposed to the US government (past and present) and how the BIA has treated them, and the so-called "trust" fund, and its mismanagement by the US government. I'd rather we just got out of their business altogether, and afford them the full implications of nation. And, I've said it before, I think we should give back at least all the sacred sites we've stolen from them, like Mt. Rushmore...
A beautiful thought. One I agree with in principle, but not logistically.
Quote:Would you rather I not talk? You'd like me silenced?
I guess I started this, but I'll also end it right here! I never suggested you stop talking. I'm glad your comfortable enough to speak your mind, and that we live in a country in which we can do such a thing. I enjoy our discussions. What I was insinuating seemed obvious to me, but is not worth pursuing any further. Let this part of the conversation die here.
Quote:And... your assumptions and prejudices are showing again.
I am not prejudiced toward any religion in particular. This is a pretty broad statement you accuse me of. I'm asking that you clarify your position in assuming I am prejudiced towards either you or some faith in particular.
For clairification purposes, I'm adding a quick comment here, but I don't wish to discuss this anymore in this thread please: I'll reiterate that my beef is with religion in schools, not with any religion in particular.
Quote:Yes, you are calling me a crusader, and a liar. And... through our brief association on this forum, you know me better than I know myself. Were I to be as brilliant as you seem to portray yourself, maybe someday I'll understand myself. Until then, I'll just have to accept myself the way I am.
This mudslinging stops here! My assertions on your behavior in the attempts at furthering my points were rude and perhaps even juvenile, I won't deny it, but I was not calling your character into question, nor claiming to know the correct answer to religion in schools, or some magical zen that everyone must attain. I'm feeling very frustrated and upset with you that you would twist my words to say such things, and essentially take what I'm saying and turn it into your own personal joke. Your words directly affected me.
This particular vain of the discussion can only lead to more name-calling and baseless accusations - lets agree to end it here!
"The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which he has attained liberation from the self." -Albert Einsetin