Hi,
Since he chose to use that language the last time he replied to me, I felt I was justified.
Actually, I'm totally neutral when it comes to Zyn except for what has happened in these two threads. Indeed, I think I tried to as helpful as possible to him when he was interested in banking, but I might be confusing him with someone else.
EDIT: I do know that he was the only Lurker on SR who asked me to find specific items in the AH and that I looked for (and often bought) those items right up till I started shutting that operation down. If you are referring to my questioning who Narthius was (one of Zyn's avatars) because he was regularly withdrawing 1000 g from the GB, I did that precisely because I could not determine that it was Zyn. I believe the player's note had something like Zynii. Once the situation was cleared up, I not only dropped all objections, but as I said above, started helping him get the mats he needed at a better price when possible.
As I said, I only know what I see here and on line. If any of this has happened in the last couple of years, I've missed it.
"Exactly what a Lurkers guild should not be like, in my opinion. But I know my view has long been in the minority."
That is a snipe? And a snipe about your decision? Looks like a simple statement of opinion. An opinion that I think I share -- we should recruit for good people, not good players. A good person, willing to try, can become an adequate player. A great player, if he's a disruptive person, is going to be a pain forever.
Yes, you do. And you've done a wonderful job with the guild's health. I'm not so sure about your enjoyment, and I fear I might have had a negative influence in that. For that, I'm truly sorry.
As am I. If I ever see such a post, you can bet I'll set my flamethrower to vaporize. But in this case, I think you've overreacted to a relatively benign post because of your history with the poster. I understand. I've done it, all too often. But, please, take a step back and think about it. Had I made that comment (and I could very well have made it), what would your reaction have been. I've never disrespected you, I've never questioned your leadership, I've always had the highest admiration for how you herd these cats. Would you still have taken offense, split it off, and made a big deal about it if I'd been the poster?
And I hope that it is as long as there are Lurkers on Stormrage. There are many good people in the guild, but I can't think of one who would be a better GM. But is that what this is really about.
Take care, remember: illegitimi non carborandum.
--Pete
(07-23-2010, 11:24 PM)Tal Wrote: As Zyn has used such language sparingly on the public forums I ask that you recognize that and not drag that into the public forum.
Since he chose to use that language the last time he replied to me, I felt I was justified.
Quote:It is also abundantly clear that you don't care for Zyn.
Actually, I'm totally neutral when it comes to Zyn except for what has happened in these two threads. Indeed, I think I tried to as helpful as possible to him when he was interested in banking, but I might be confusing him with someone else.
EDIT: I do know that he was the only Lurker on SR who asked me to find specific items in the AH and that I looked for (and often bought) those items right up till I started shutting that operation down. If you are referring to my questioning who Narthius was (one of Zyn's avatars) because he was regularly withdrawing 1000 g from the GB, I did that precisely because I could not determine that it was Zyn. I believe the player's note had something like Zynii. Once the situation was cleared up, I not only dropped all objections, but as I said above, started helping him get the mats he needed at a better price when possible.
Quote:I'm sorry that you haven't seen some of the variant scum activities that Lurkers have taken part in. We've done all paladin raids in classic, an all druid raid in TBC and I've taken part in an assault on a horde town armed with pitchforks and torches.
As I said, I only know what I see here and on line. If any of this has happened in the last couple of years, I've missed it.
Quote:Now on to the purpose of this thread. I moved the posts out because I was tired of the incessant sniping from Lavcat about a decision I made in 2005. Two thousand and five. For those of you keeping score at home that was five years ago. And, frankly, I'm tired of it.
"Exactly what a Lurkers guild should not be like, in my opinion. But I know my view has long been in the minority."
That is a snipe? And a snipe about your decision? Looks like a simple statement of opinion. An opinion that I think I share -- we should recruit for good people, not good players. A good person, willing to try, can become an adequate player. A great player, if he's a disruptive person, is going to be a pain forever.
Quote:I have to worry about my enjoyment and the guild's health.
Yes, you do. And you've done a wonderful job with the guild's health. I'm not so sure about your enjoyment, and I fear I might have had a negative influence in that. For that, I'm truly sorry.
Quote:I AM opposed to having snide remarks made about my ability to lead the Lurkers on Stormrage. It's disrespectful to me and the Lurkers who voted for me to take on the reins.
As am I. If I ever see such a post, you can bet I'll set my flamethrower to vaporize. But in this case, I think you've overreacted to a relatively benign post because of your history with the poster. I understand. I've done it, all too often. But, please, take a step back and think about it. Had I made that comment (and I could very well have made it), what would your reaction have been. I've never disrespected you, I've never questioned your leadership, I've always had the highest admiration for how you herd these cats. Would you still have taken offense, split it off, and made a big deal about it if I'd been the poster?
Quote:And I will continue to do so as long as the Lurkers on Stormrage will have me.
And I hope that it is as long as there are Lurkers on Stormrage. There are many good people in the guild, but I can't think of one who would be a better GM. But is that what this is really about.
Take care, remember: illegitimi non carborandum.
--Pete
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