[split] Stormrage Lurker Guild Discussion - Formerly known as Cat Beta

[Kevin]

I felt that it wasn't the place for what Tal said, and I made a comment, and Tal replied that we should get the thread on-topic, I agreed with him, and that should have been the end of it.

i.e. I didn't like his post, same as you didn't like mine. Do I have less right to say anything than you? No. Do we really need to drag all this out in the public forum? No, not really. I vote we lock or delete this entire derail and be done with it, as it serves no purpose.

I love your selective memory. I really do.

The forum and the guilds have been divorced for some time now, really. None of the admins or old admins have their mains in a Lurker guild anymore. Just alts, if any at all. <shrug>

That was your first post after the derail. Where are you saying it should be back on topic? Where are you saying that it wasn't the appropriate place for Tal's comment?

No you are taking a pot shot "None of the admins or old admins have their mains in a Lurker guild anymore." Which reads to pretty much everyone "The guilds suck, so the admins left".


So why public? Because this game is more than just a game. There are a lot of personal relationships involved here.

I'm jumping in on this specific point because your response to Shoju does not match up with what I saw in the thread. What Shoju saw is what I saw. You chimed in, your first response to what happened with Tal and LavCat, with what could very easily be taken as a snide comment and based on Tal's next response, was taken that way. How did you help the situation with your FIRST post, what I have quoted above? Do you really think that was the way to say what Lav and Tal said weren't in the appropriate place?

Was the thread already derailed? Sure. Has Lav said the same thing to Tal before in public threads? Yes. Should Lav be stating that publicly? Debatable, because the games played by people are a big part of what keeps the forums a place people come to. How things happen in game matter to how people interact with each other. Lav should be able to voice opinion. Open discussion on how members of the forums would like the guilds to be run is healthy. I know that several people that are now somewhat regular posters on these forums came to the forums through the game. So I don't see the guilds not supporting the forums.