04-25-2010, 04:53 AM
I do agree with the your observation that this is a ploy by the corrupt to abuse the many tax payers in the EU for the benefit of a few. If that is what you meant. The mechanism is there to abuse the majority, regardless of the ideology of the people who abuse the system for their own gains. They are parasites draining the strength from your economy.
I think you also missed my deeper point. Don't you believe that in a way, this IS socialism run amok? Even though the perpetrators are not considered socialists, they are using the system in a way that it is used to justify every other act of theft. You and I agree that we don't want beggars starving to death on our door steps, but we disagree as to the means, or the "sharing of equality of misery" as Churchill put it. I'm saying that it is the philosophy of justifying taking from some to give to those who haven't earned it in the first place that allows this type of looting to occur. Here, in my State, I see the parasites sucking the host dry, or as a dry rot sapping the strength out of anything productive. What I hear from the socialists is that the host is strong enough to survive the parasites. Perhaps sometimes it is strong enough to carry all the dead weight, but eventually I think the burden will bring the whole thing crashing down. I see it in the destitution of Minnesota's iron miners, and the lack of a domestic steel industry, even though we are sitting on a mountain of cheap iron. Now, we are shipping most of our iron to China. Or, in municipalities abusing eminent domain to seize property away from legitimate owners who have invested everything to give it to land developers for politically justified betterment projects in the name of the public good, or in the passing of laws that are funded by all to pay for the needs (health care insurance) or whimsy(bridges to nowhere) of a few. I believe it is the cancer that has killed industry here in the US, and driven it away along with a significant portion of our employment.
I think you also missed my deeper point. Don't you believe that in a way, this IS socialism run amok? Even though the perpetrators are not considered socialists, they are using the system in a way that it is used to justify every other act of theft. You and I agree that we don't want beggars starving to death on our door steps, but we disagree as to the means, or the "sharing of equality of misery" as Churchill put it. I'm saying that it is the philosophy of justifying taking from some to give to those who haven't earned it in the first place that allows this type of looting to occur. Here, in my State, I see the parasites sucking the host dry, or as a dry rot sapping the strength out of anything productive. What I hear from the socialists is that the host is strong enough to survive the parasites. Perhaps sometimes it is strong enough to carry all the dead weight, but eventually I think the burden will bring the whole thing crashing down. I see it in the destitution of Minnesota's iron miners, and the lack of a domestic steel industry, even though we are sitting on a mountain of cheap iron. Now, we are shipping most of our iron to China. Or, in municipalities abusing eminent domain to seize property away from legitimate owners who have invested everything to give it to land developers for politically justified betterment projects in the name of the public good, or in the passing of laws that are funded by all to pay for the needs (health care insurance) or whimsy(bridges to nowhere) of a few. I believe it is the cancer that has killed industry here in the US, and driven it away along with a significant portion of our employment.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.
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