American ex-general claims Srebrenica fell partially due to homosexual
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Quote:If a gay person signs up to be in the army he does that to fight, not to find a mate. So let him.
Not necessarily. In a career military, there are many reasons to enlist beyond duty, and the thrill of combat.
Quote:The whole issue is of course that in certain situations gays are being harassed. And I guess that happens (happened) in the army a lot. I think the bigger problems is here by people that are moronic enough to hassle their comrades instead of focusing on the enemy. Suggesting that the problem is gay people who cannot keep their hands to themselves seems a bit odd.
First, I was not talking about gays alone. In a mixed sex service, we have more of a problem with fraternization between men and women at the moment. Whether it be a college dorm, or a barracks, if you put people together there inevitably will be someone who gets unfairly picked on (regardless of sex, or sexual orientation). The cure is discipline, building greater interdependence, and keeping troops focused on their mission.
Quote:The general should retire to his little midwestern village and stay there to complain about commies, gays and blacks with the rest of the extremists. I guess he already forgot how our christian Bush loving government is the first to jump in to help the US in some peace mission, despite most of the population being against it. This remark was a stab in the back of those in the Netherlands that actually wanted to help the US. Making chances that we will join some new mission only smaller. (where I of course realize that our name on a list is more important than the actual volume of troops we send)
You only make yourself appear asinine and bigoted when you comment like this. For example, Minneapolis, a mid-western city near where I live is considered in the top 10 in gay lifestyle and percentage of the cities population, and Houston, Texas is also in the top ten "LGBT cities". You are just as apt to find the anti-gay bigot in upstate New York, as you would be in rural Alabama. The *real* schisms in tolerance have usually been between urban and rural populations. John J. Sheehan is from Massachusetts, has a B.A. in English from Boston College, a Master degree in Government from Georgetown University, and I would guess that since he is a Sr. VP at Bechtel, that he probably works either in San Francisco, or out of their office in Wash. DC. His opinions are not extremist, unless you compare them to those of the average Dutch chemist. I also find no mention of him railing against commies, although I doubt many American Generals embrace that social philosophy, and if you knew an infinitesimal smidgeon about the military, or the marine corps, then you'd know that racial integration and promotion in the forces has been common place for over 1/2 a century. In fact, in even in the racially charged Vietnam era, it was a place where skill meant more than skin.
Quote:But than again, the general looks like somebody who thinks that Holland is the capital of Copenhagen.
And you can tell this by looking at him? Was it his skin color, or his bone structure?
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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American ex-general claims Srebrenica fell partially due to homosexual - by kandrathe - 03-26-2010, 02:45 PM

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