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[kandrathe]

Even though it is a fact that people who hurt animals for fun in their childhood, are very likely of doing the same with people later on. (most sadistic serial killers have abused animals in theior younger years) So with this in mind you should at least heavily check such kind of people.

Just so we are clear where my positions lay, unlike it seems my discussion of the FLDS. I love animals (in a good way), and I was raised on a small farm where we raised beef cattle for eating.

The juvenile mistreatment of animals is one indication of a troubled psyche, even in childhood. I knew of two boys who when I was growing up who described some of their abuse of animals (frogs mostly), and one eventually stalked women, and would hide in their closets. He was physically abused by his father. He never became an actual murderer, but I would guess he may have fantasized about it. He was in and out of the system for a number of years until he finally got enough professional help to reconnect with our society in a positive manner. The other boy changed direction on his own by 6th grade, became a friend of mine (an others in the drama department) and was a very nice person, after high school he went to college, acted in community theater, had a profession as a psychologist.

Primarily my concern about this fuzzy line is that "rights" are currently reserved to people. When we start anthropomorphizing our pets (or farm animals, or wild animals) and giving them the natural law rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, then I get very worried for the future of our species. You don't understand sport hunting, but don't project onto hunters some homicidal intent. You assume that "feedlot" farming is cruel, because you have seen some videos of cruel feedlot conditions. This type of propaganda is sufficient for cause oriented advocates to sway lots of soft hearted people to vote away their freedoms.