12-09-2009, 12:20 PM
Quote:I actually think he is more of a moderate.Sure. A moderate - who writes editorials for right wing newspapers excoriating the great global warming scam, who takes shot after shot at Al Gore, who's hangin' with the folks at Cato, Heartland, and so on... very moderate.
There's a chance he might be correct. There's no chance he's in the middle of the pack, scientifically speaking.
Quote:It's the old adage, "Correlation does not indicate causality". Yes, the temperature is on balance rising, which may have something to do with CO2. But, it might also have something more to do with something else (like micro particulates or the sun). I don't see the big disaster looming around the next decade, or probably even the next century.None of these other explanations have gained much traction - even in journals that regularly publish denialist papers. Everyone and their monkey believes they've found the thing that's actually causing warming, but none of it fits the data as well as CO2 does, not by a long shot.
Quote:The bottom line is that whatever the politicians are cooking up in Copenhagen will not undo whatever CO2 build up that has occurred over the past 200 years.You keep saying this. What does this matter? The current level of CO2 is not catastrophic. It is the current *rate of emissions* that is the problem. That's a problem for the future, not the past.
Quote:We aren't talking about solutions like salting the atmosphere with sulfur dioxide or building solar powered automaton catamarans that sail around the oceans churning up salt mists now are we.Unless you're a freakonomist, then no, I guess not. Mostly because these solutions, while novel, are generally untested, impractical, and in some cases, the cure is worse than the disease. I'm all for studying geoengineering, but these mechanisms are hardly ready to be deployed tomorrow - unless we *really* like gambling with the environment. Besides, they'd all have their costs - who pays for them?
Quote:No, in Copenhagen they are negotiating how to create a global tax on the citizens of the industrialized nations to be deposited in the world bank. Follow the money.Sounds like a great idea to me. Easiest way to solve the problem, and the money gets put in a place where it can be put to good use.
-Jester