12-04-2009, 02:55 AM
Quote:Individually, and in total rejection of any plan that involves taxation or regulation beyond what already exists?More taxation is only necessary if the answer to the problem is more government. Why should I keep trying to pee up that rope? What has it done for us?
Quote:Or is there actually some plan for doing this on a collective basis that you could get behind?Absolutely, there is no conflict between environmentalism and libertarianism. We need to start by getting the corruption out of environmental legislation and oversight, and eliminating sovereign immunity for governments contribution to environmental harm.
http://www.adti.net/environment/congressRe...ryan102800.html
Rather than see government as a solution (with their taxes), I see them as the main contributor to the problem. Consider how government colluded with Detroit to destroy many street car systems. Congress is rife with crafty legislation and amendments to promote coal, oil, and natural gas, while eliminating support for renewable sources (and nuclear). I've said before that our republic has descended more into oligarchy or fascist plutarchy than any other recognizable form of government. It certainly is no longer a representative democracy. I don't consider plutocrats watching public opinion polls as democratic, and it is corporations and special interests that actually provide(fund) the candidates for whom (about 55%) of us get to choose between.
But, to answer your question... Yes, there is a plan I would get behind. It would need to be grass roots, and it would need to spread from locality to locality. In order to do so, we'd need to remove the obstruction of the State and Federal government who protect their wealthy friends preventing us from holding those who damage the environment accountable.