Quote:Until the population reduction policies are put into effect, all of Gore's visions of a better future are pap.
Thank you mister obvious when me and my friends were 9 we already 'knew' this was the solution to save the environment. But later I found that this statement as such is far from correct. You can destroy the earth with a billion people.....true it goes faster with 7 billion, but in both scenarios you can try to do something about it.
Quote:People want more, and if you think you can sell this energy virtue, you might want to first look at how well the birth control virtue has sold all over the globe.
Ok, so your suggestion is to wait for an effective global birth control system first?
Quote:Oh, wait, it hasn't, except at the point of the knife in China, and with mixed results in the "advanced" nations.When a nation thrives birth rates go down (even though I read a article recently stating that in some developed countries this changed again), a good working, rich and clean society will not grow in terms of population (population growth occurs through immigration). Problem is that our western societies need growth to sustain our consumption based life-style (plus the social aspect that tells us to host refugees).
One 'solution' is trying to do it on our own and don't let refugees and immigrants in. Just like we could also stop aid to poor countries. There are of course several negatives to this 'solution', first it being not humane (at least for our conscience), and 2nd we need our involvemnet in 3rd world countries for cheap stuff that we can consume.
Quote:My description of Gore's efforts is "pissing up a rope" with the exception of getting attention paid to a particular problem set in a confined circle of interest. For that, he gets a passing grade.
Occhi
Many things have to be changed before we have a fair and honest world.....but most of them likely take longer than investing in a cleaner environment and low C emitting energy sources.
Gore does more than most of us, and also more than most of us in his 'situation' (situation being an upper class guy with loads of money etc. etc.).
And I get really sad if people start complaining (whining) about that this is going to cost them 'a bit more taxes'. Well if you have problems with that find an extra job instead of playing video games 6 hours per day and surfing the web 3 hours per day. I will try to get hold of a Bangladeshi farmer living in the Ganges Delta to see what he thinks.....I will post his remarks when I do.