10-31-2009, 05:03 PM
Quote:Pete, if you want to shoot yourself full of something that sooner or later is going to kill you, that's your problem. And if you're dumb enough to actually do it, the world is better off without you anyway.
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Quote:If said substance causes you to go on wild rampages in the street, then it becomes the problem of everyone in your path - it's no different than going out with a loaded rifle and firing it randomly.If if if....usually using some drugs is not as dangerous as firing a loaded rifle. At least I think because I didn't try both.
Quote:I'll consider legalizing drugs acceptable when society holds people accountable for their actions under the influence. Right now drugs are a convenient excuse. You get high on [insert random garbage here], you go out, raise hell, and under YOUR system, you haven't even committed a crime; they won't even try to nail you for the three or four murders/rapes/whathaveyou because you can just hide behind drug-induced insanity and the state has no choice but to mollycoddle you into some rehab program or other and then back out onto the streets where you can do it all over again.
Hiding behind drug (or alcohol use) is wrong. And also that the legal system does this. But this point is indeed a point against a justice system, and not against drug use. I'd rather be not killed by somebody that uses a lot of drugs than being killed by somebody that is clean.
Quote:I see it happen constantly in the news already; as soon as it comes out the suspect was under the influence of whatever, it's all sympathy and "what can we do to help them" and it's not their fault anymore.
I don't get that feeling from the media.
Quote:Nevermind if the guy killed enough people to fill a morgue, he's the victim now. At least under the current system that guy's gonna spend a token amount of time in the slammer on drug charges - under your model he doesn't even get that.
Again I have no idea which country you are talking about. Killing people makes you go to prison, also if you have used drugs. Also when drugs are legalized this will be the case.
And again (after my reaction on your previous post) your post would make a little sense if legalizing drugs would lead to more use and more crime, but it doesn't.