09-27-2009, 06:42 PM
Quote:I agree. We were talking about "brain washing" impressionable minds. This was why it was criminal to allow a grace to be said before a meal.You really aren't going to stop with this, are you?
All the following ducks have to be in a a row for this to be unconstitutional:
1) Government
2) Promotion of religion
3) No clear secular purpose
This is the clear meaning of the first amendment, as it is currently interpreted by the courts: no official support for religion in school. Not that saying grace is illegal, or that teachers aren't allowed to be religious, or whatever the heck else you keep implying.
You also keep ignoring the context: this is not about one incident where some dude said grace, and was hauled to court. This is a school where *overt religious indoctrination* was the norm, at school assemblies, in the teacher's manual, everywhere. When the ACLU took them to court, the Principal *admitted that this was all true* and got an injunction against them to stop with the unconstitutional preaching. This story is about when they *violated that agreement*, and got dragged back to court. Courts said it was an accident, fine. But this is not just some guy saying grace.
-Jester