Climate Policy

[Concillian]

How well does the seemingly linear temperature rise match the long wave solar minimums and maximums?

[snipped a bunch of argument that was not worthwhile because the respondant hasn't followed what I've been saying]

The only time I mentioned temperature has been to say that the CO2 data is so strongly supportive that the industrial revolution caused the CO2 increase that it is very unlikely that temperature came "first" in your "which came first" question.

I have purposefully decoupled temperature for now, because temperature, as you noted, has much less supporting evidence for any claim and there is no solid model. Rather than focus on what we don't know, I've been trying to focus on what we do know, namely that there is strong indication that humans were responsible of most or all of the recent CO2 increase, not your initial claim that humans are responsible for a mere few percent of the CO2 PPM increase. I believe I have given rather adequate data to support that claim.

My method to argumentation is to take baby steps. I thought this was a baby step, because the data on CO2 is quite compelling. But if people are too involved to be able to step back and look at things in small chunks, then we've all wasted quite a bit of time.

It sounds like overall you are in agreement with how I feel overall. Namely that we know we've been responsible for the CO2 gain, so lets work on reducing that. In the meantime, more research will be ongoing and may bring about stronger trends on what's causing the temperature increase, but until then, we can try to do what we can, while we can.