Ulduar Discussion Thread
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Quote:I'm not. Those are early fights in Ulduar and there is plenty of challenge left even excluding hard modes.

They are optional bosses, and Razorscale wasn't even hard to begin with. Ignis needed some tuning, but he's just a big baby now, after his damage was cut in, almost literally, half.

He was still a challenging fight after the "Melee people in the pot" was fixed... Now he just rolls over and dies.

Quote:On the topic of harder fights in 25 than 10 - I'd put Auriaya on that list for us. We two-shot her in our 10 man last week but took 3.25 hours to get a first kill in our 25 man last night. It was fun though.

Unless the raid is missing shamans, I'm not sure how she is difficult in 25-man - unless you're wiping on the pull (For which there are, thankfully a lot of solutions - a lot of room for creativity).

Quote:I'd also say that both you and I have very little perspective on what is a hard 10 man fight, however. We out-gear the 10 man encounters.

When we beat the Council enrage by 3 minutes, or Kologorn's arm dies before he can grip one person... I don't think that's 13 item levels of gear doing our job. I've also pugged the instance in 10-man on my alt, and my observations on which 10-man bosses are easy were reinforced.

One other thing is that healer gear is largely a non-factor for the 10-man fights I listed - and on 10-man, the raid damage is low enough that even undergeared healers can easily keep people alive through it.

Quote:I'd also hazard a guess that your 10 mans, like mine, tend to be stacked with the right comps, where 10 man guilds like Lurkers on Terenas work hard to roster folks based on attendance history (to make sure everyone gets raid time) and have a smaller attendance queue to mix and match classes among, so I'm always really interested to read how they are enjoying the place =)

My group is currently carrying a tank healer, an off-tank and a few DPS. Friends and family, and not particularly good players. Our raid leader's blood boils when we get to Mimiron, and the keyboard turners can't kite.

I can see groups having a rough time with him, when they lack a hunter, or heavy stunlocks.
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Ulduar Discussion Thread - by Mordekhuul - 04-15-2009, 12:40 PM
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