03-31-2009, 07:59 PM
Hi,
I want food. I go to the grocery store and get it. If I pay the grocer directly, I only need to pay enough to cover his cost, expense, and salary. If I pay through the state, I pay all that, plus the salary of the tax collectors, their bureaucracies, the dispensers of funds, their bureaucracies, etc. Not to mention killing a forest for the wood for the paper for the paperwork. So, I pay much more in taxes than I would in cash to get the same groceries. You can look at it from the standpoint that the groceries are what I get back for my taxes. Or you can look at it from the standpoint that the higher overall price is what I get to support government. Either way, I get to eat less. And my money is wasted.
And that is assuming the government is willing to stop at taxing me to pay the grocer. But we know it would not stop there. Since the government is "paying" (not really, I'm paying, but they're middleman-ing) it will impose it's regulations on the grocer. No more than so much for beef -- which means no prime, no better cuts. Those will either go to a black market or completely disappear when the ranchers cannot get enough for their cattle to make keeping good stock worthwhile.
The whole concept of "a state uses its taxes wisely" is so ludicrous as to make me cry. That any intelligent adult anywhere could actually say this except in sarcasm is a great tribute to the propaganda machine of the far left (and, yes, the far right has its own, possibly even more evil, propaganda machine). Socialism is the prime example of the road to hell being paved with good intentions.
On the other hand, if instead of wanting food, I wanted a war, then government spending is surely the way to go.
--Pete
Quote:If a state uses its taxes wisely much of the taxes come back to you.That is socialist thinking. Consider:
I want food. I go to the grocery store and get it. If I pay the grocer directly, I only need to pay enough to cover his cost, expense, and salary. If I pay through the state, I pay all that, plus the salary of the tax collectors, their bureaucracies, the dispensers of funds, their bureaucracies, etc. Not to mention killing a forest for the wood for the paper for the paperwork. So, I pay much more in taxes than I would in cash to get the same groceries. You can look at it from the standpoint that the groceries are what I get back for my taxes. Or you can look at it from the standpoint that the higher overall price is what I get to support government. Either way, I get to eat less. And my money is wasted.
And that is assuming the government is willing to stop at taxing me to pay the grocer. But we know it would not stop there. Since the government is "paying" (not really, I'm paying, but they're middleman-ing) it will impose it's regulations on the grocer. No more than so much for beef -- which means no prime, no better cuts. Those will either go to a black market or completely disappear when the ranchers cannot get enough for their cattle to make keeping good stock worthwhile.
The whole concept of "a state uses its taxes wisely" is so ludicrous as to make me cry. That any intelligent adult anywhere could actually say this except in sarcasm is a great tribute to the propaganda machine of the far left (and, yes, the far right has its own, possibly even more evil, propaganda machine). Socialism is the prime example of the road to hell being paved with good intentions.
On the other hand, if instead of wanting food, I wanted a war, then government spending is surely the way to go.
Quote:Anyway, again, the topic of this thread (come down on property tax evasion) must get your agreement?I think we've got a cultural or language barrier here. In the USA, 'property tax' is used almost exclusively for the taxes paid on real estate, primarily that used for domestic dwellings. Since we do not pay taxes on our other property (bank accounts, jewelry, stocks, Krugerrands, plate and silver, or fine linen), property tax is not an issue. The hiding of income in overseas bank accounts to avoid paying (in some cases duplicated) income tax is.
--Pete
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