10-10-2008, 05:03 PM
Hi,
Also, there is no Federal official photo ID. And the rules vary from state to state. In most states, you do not legally need any ID at all. Most people drive, and so have a driver's license, but many don't drive. So, the second part of your premise is also wrong. As usual, you are starting from a falsehood. Your conclusions are thus logically right -- and actually crap.
--Pete
Quote:So my question is; if every person in the US has a social security number that is written on his/her official photo-ID,Pretty much everybody has a social security number, but not everybody. Since social security *only* deals with income and benefits, a person with no (declared) income does not need one. Parents do need to get one for children *if* they are declaring those children as dependents but not otherwise. So that part of your premise is wrong.
Also, there is no Federal official photo ID. And the rules vary from state to state. In most states, you do not legally need any ID at all. Most people drive, and so have a driver's license, but many don't drive. So, the second part of your premise is also wrong. As usual, you are starting from a falsehood. Your conclusions are thus logically right -- and actually crap.
Quote:Voting is a ground right of every person in a democracy so registration should not be necesarry.Ignoring the fact that the USA is a republic, not a democracy, we can move on to the other error you make. Voting is *not* a right of *every* person. We eliminate the under aged (18 in most places), we eliminate the felons, we eliminate the non-citizens. That comes out to a fair fraction of the 'persons' living in the USA.
Quote:Everybody that is normally registered at his town hall receives a card in the mail that asks him/her to come and vote. You take this card with you, and show your ID, then the man/woman at the voting office gives the person a ballot and he can vote. Also this person fills in the social security number of the person coming in to vote in the computer which is connected to the database with all americans that are eligible to vote. If the number has already been used (when somebody came in with a forged ID and forged voting card) it is time to undertake action. Right?Wrong. First, there is no such national database. But, more important, your idea is stupid. Mr. X with your ID gets up early and votes. You show up later and are banned because you've 'already voted'. By the time you've proven TO A FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY you are the real you (after all, only a moron would think that an ID that is in question can be used to validate that ID) you've probably missed not only that election, but two more. And even if you can prove your identity rapidly, what can they do about the invalid vote? Nothing, if it is a true secret ballot -- because if there is a way to track who voted how, then the ballot is no longer secret and the potential for reprisals for 'voting wrong' becomes very real.
Quote:What am I forgetting here?Common sense, intelligence, reading ability (most of these points have already been explained to you), logic. Oh, sorry, you said 'forgetting', not 'missing'.
--Pete
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