06-19-2003, 10:16 AM
Quote:Also, Isreal has been restrained again and again by the US. Isreal could do much more.
I have no doubts about that. I regard Israel as a terrorist state, and it's a good thing someone is holding their leash. I just wish the US would stop feeding them weapons.
Quote:The US goes out of its way to attack only military targets and is highly successful in minimizing civilian casualties. All the (unintentional!) foreign civilian deaths from Afghan and Iraq combined together don't add up to the number lost in New York City.
As others have already pointed out, your "numbers" on civilian casualities are a product of your imagination.
According to http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm the number is between 5567 and 7240. And that is just in Iraq.
http://www.cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm reports 3000-3400 in Afghanistan.
Quote:In the almost 2 years since 9/11, much has been written about "why they hate us". Various conclusions have been reached by various authors. Do you think rational discourse can make the terrorists love us again? I don't.
No, but I think withdrawing troops from the middle east and stop supporting everything Israel does could be a good start. Do you really think these people are doing this because they don't like hamburgers?
You have a tendency to jump on peoples toes with your foreign policies and that is probably part of the explanation.
By default there is a whole continent AND a big ocean dividing you from these people, so you can't exactly blame it on bad neighbourhood either.
I'm not saying the US are to blame for all of this, but you need to start realizing that there are always two sides to a story, and that noone is pure good or pure evil. Both parts are to blame for the conflict between arabs and the US, but neither seems willing to accept an inch of responsibility for it. In my eyes that makes both parts equally guilty of the continuation of the conflict.