Non-holy pally healing gear
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Quote:I suppose that I should get off my butt and actually post what is going through my mind. I start with thinking of the fights where I have been best used in a heal role. Maiden, Nightbane (situationally depending on group comp), Eagle boss, Whoever that spine throwing boss in BT is, Leo the blind...thats all that comes to mind right this moment.

Yeah I really don't know the state of your healing gear. I actually assumed you were at around 1500 healing, 100 MP/5 while casting and about 8K HP, unbuffed. Reading what you mentioned about the fights lines up mostly with my thinking though, which I think it's why MP/5 falls in line with what you are thinking. However if you do think you might heal a heroic, it needs more value. That is about all there is on that.

Quote:10 +heal = 8 haste = 4 mp5 = 30 crit = 20 sta = 30 int

10 heal = 15 Haste = 4 mp5 = 25 crit = 30 sta = 25 int

A few things that you might not be thinking about.

22.08 crit rating = 1% crit. So I'm basically saying you need a bit more than 1% (1.132) crit to = +10 heal. I feel good about that. You are saying 1.359. I know that nothing is nicer than seeing that crit heal when you really need it. Sure, sure more +heal means it's not as big of a deal. But I like crits. That could be the shaman in me and the fact I've healed a lot as holy spec and just can't let it go. The armor buff from the shaman heals is noticable. It's a small difference but I think it fits better.

80 int = 1% crit. So 25 int = .3125% crit and 375 mana. Flash of Light costs 180 mana. So my number is basically saying that 2 more flash of light casts + .3125% crit is worth +10 healing. You at 30 are saying you want .375% crit and 450 mana (or 2.5 more FoL casts till dry). Not a huge difference on our numbers again.

Now with haste.

FoL = 1.5s cast. FoL with 8 haste rating = 1.492s cast (you can use http://haste.lastliberty.org/spellcalc.php to just get the numbers quick, it's german but shouldn't be an issue to understand if you only speak/read english). 15 haste rating = 1.486s cast. And yes with the changes haste will lower the GCD down to 1s. But it still caps at 1s on the GCD. You'll note in practical terms there isn't a lot of difference there. Lets look at bigger values. Lets look at 60 vs 24. 1.445 vs 1.477. I'm saying you want to be to a 1.445 cast to give up 40 healing. You are saying a 1.477 to give up 40 healing. OK why for me? Again for me this could be because I still /stopcasting a lot while healing. That means the haste rating is only good for getting that first heal there.

Let's say your FoL hits for 1300. Flash of Light get 42.86% of your +healing per cast. Lets look at really big numbers. 100 healing vs 150 haste rating or 80 haste rating. 1.369 cast or 1.427 cast.

So that base throughput (with 0% crit) is 1300 / 1.5 = 866.66 HP/s

100 healing: 1343 / 1.5 = 895.22 HP/s
150 haste: 1300 / 1.369 = 949.60 HP/s
80 haste; 1300 / 1.427 = 911 HP/s

Maybe I undervalue it too much. Your value gives you similar throughput and maybe I'm considering stopcasting too much. The more you sit around the less value the haste has. The more times you stop a cast or just don't cast the less value haste has. The values above are just comparing pure spamming of FoL without any crit factored in.

Anyway that should help you nail down what you think about it better I hope.

And finally stam. Staying alive matters and I do value stam a fair bit on my healers, I often put on PvP healing gear depending on the fight but on some fights it doesn't matter much at all, on others it's a big deal. For the content we are in right now, I like to get to 9K unbuffed once I'm there having more doesn't really matter that much. That's why I lowered it's value.

My values aren't that different than yours. Stam and haste have the biggest difference, I agree on the MP/5 and my crit and int values are minor tweaks. You can just have your spreadsheet factor in just what a spam situation will look like if you really want to find out better values. You can get the haste formula here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_haste_rating

When I gave my values they were more gut feel than any kind of rigorous math. :) I did more math in this post than I did when I was thinking about them. I really should have done the math first. :)
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Non-holy pally healing gear - by swirly - 06-02-2008, 01:41 PM
Non-holy pally healing gear - by WimpySmurf - 06-02-2008, 02:38 PM
Non-holy pally healing gear - by swirly - 06-02-2008, 03:22 PM
Non-holy pally healing gear - by Concillian - 06-02-2008, 08:16 PM
Non-holy pally healing gear - by Kevin - 06-02-2008, 09:27 PM
Non-holy pally healing gear - by swirly - 06-03-2008, 05:58 AM
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Non-holy pally healing gear - by swirly - 06-03-2008, 02:18 PM
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Non-holy pally healing gear - by swirly - 06-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Non-holy pally healing gear - by Concillian - 06-04-2008, 05:59 PM
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