04-30-2008, 09:46 PM
Quote:Ok, now explain how this is different than the Native American communities on reservations where the incidence of abuse is consistently higher. Explain how it is different than immigrant communities where the traditions allow for arranged marriage at age 12, and impregnation by age 14 where the incidence of abuse is consistently higher. Look at how Islamic communities are even allowed/arguing to practice Sharia law in some family disputes, rather than submit to the law of the land, e.g. Ontario, Netherlands. Are you not imposing your modern "western" values upon them? Even your comments about "dirty old men" betrays that you are making a values judgment, rather than a legal judgment. Are you not being either equally ethnically insensitive, or unreasonably emotionally inconsistent here? Is it OK to ignore "abuse" in Laotian, and Native American tradition, but now prosecute it in FLDS tradition?
No it isn't. This is also the reason why 'we' are so desperate to invade Afghanistan, Irak, and what will be next (Iran, Jordan, Syria). I am not saying the (your) government is being consistent (you don't attack Saudi Arabie or India) but in general we (you) are opposed to oppression and we try to do everything that we can to stop this. (indeed it is easier to this in your own country than in Saudi Arabia but that doesn't make it wrong).
Liberty is a great good but people should learn to behave accordingly.
In Holland we in some way are many years ahead of the US (true we are a monarchy, but very republicy....and already for a long time) and we have many problems at the moment with populist that because they have the freedom of speech want to use it to piss other people off and on the other hand a large Muslims community that wants to keep there habits of treating womens as second class citizens....a lack of clear thinking persons that don't care about getting votes is also destroying our country). Freedom of speech/religion should not mean you can do everything you want when you call it religion.