04-30-2008, 03:52 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-30-2008, 04:15 PM by FireIceTalon.)
Good topic, Ghast. I was having this discussion in LE the other day with someone who said only "purists" exist, and that there was no such thing as "player-pure" or "ultra-purist" :rolleyes:
However, Ive always seen a bit different terminolgy used for these different char types/defintions. This is what ive seen most people refer to with the following:
Legit: Follows all the standard rules of playing legit (i.e no duping/using dupes, hacks, dats, abuse of ms bug, etc etc). This char may accept items from other people, so long as they know the person/item is indeed legit. Basically you should only do this if you really trust the person. Since you can never be 100% sure, common sense and good judgment are the rule of thumb here. If someone offers you Dragons Zodiac Ammy for free, its more then likely a dupe. A rare exception for such a case would be two players who are legit and have gamed with one another for a long time, a code of trust is well established. While scanners are very flawed, having one for situations like this can be a good idea so you can check the items code and make sure its not on the common dupes list. This still isnt a guarantee, as the list hasnt been updated in years. If you have absolutly any doubt about the item, you shouldnt acceptit. And its also a good idea to never take items from public games. I generally prefer to use items only I find, and there are only a handful of people that i truly trust that I would ever accept items from or trade with.
Semi-Purist: A char which must buy or find his/her own items, exchanging items between other chars that person may have is acceptable (the example you made for instance about finding a nice item with another char that has no use for it, like a mage finding a nice bow), but must never take any items, books, or elixers from anyone else. Basically this is the same thing as "Player-Pure".
Purist: This is a char which must find or buy his/her own items, and CANNOT swap items from even his/her own other chars, let alone anyone else. That particular char must find everything itself. Same thing as "Pure" pretty much.
Ultra-Purist: Same thing as Ultra-Pure. All the rules of Purist, but you cannot buy any items except potions or scrolls. All items, books, and elixers must be found in the dungeon. They MAY buy items for other chars but must never use them.Ive also been told by a few people that Ultra Pures may only game with fellow Ultra Pures to ensure the variant is played properly.
By these defintions, I have a lvl 41 dotless Pure/ist (PuristTaloN), and a lvl 50 Semi Pure/ist (EmeraldTaloN). Rest of my chars are just plain legit.
However, Ive always seen a bit different terminolgy used for these different char types/defintions. This is what ive seen most people refer to with the following:
Legit: Follows all the standard rules of playing legit (i.e no duping/using dupes, hacks, dats, abuse of ms bug, etc etc). This char may accept items from other people, so long as they know the person/item is indeed legit. Basically you should only do this if you really trust the person. Since you can never be 100% sure, common sense and good judgment are the rule of thumb here. If someone offers you Dragons Zodiac Ammy for free, its more then likely a dupe. A rare exception for such a case would be two players who are legit and have gamed with one another for a long time, a code of trust is well established. While scanners are very flawed, having one for situations like this can be a good idea so you can check the items code and make sure its not on the common dupes list. This still isnt a guarantee, as the list hasnt been updated in years. If you have absolutly any doubt about the item, you shouldnt acceptit. And its also a good idea to never take items from public games. I generally prefer to use items only I find, and there are only a handful of people that i truly trust that I would ever accept items from or trade with.
Semi-Purist: A char which must buy or find his/her own items, exchanging items between other chars that person may have is acceptable (the example you made for instance about finding a nice item with another char that has no use for it, like a mage finding a nice bow), but must never take any items, books, or elixers from anyone else. Basically this is the same thing as "Player-Pure".
Purist: This is a char which must find or buy his/her own items, and CANNOT swap items from even his/her own other chars, let alone anyone else. That particular char must find everything itself. Same thing as "Pure" pretty much.
Ultra-Purist: Same thing as Ultra-Pure. All the rules of Purist, but you cannot buy any items except potions or scrolls. All items, books, and elixers must be found in the dungeon. They MAY buy items for other chars but must never use them.Ive also been told by a few people that Ultra Pures may only game with fellow Ultra Pures to ensure the variant is played properly.
By these defintions, I have a lvl 41 dotless Pure/ist (PuristTaloN), and a lvl 50 Semi Pure/ist (EmeraldTaloN). Rest of my chars are just plain legit.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (on capitalist laws and institutions)