Yet another religious cult raided
Quote:Hi,
It is exactly this type of sentimental, illogical crap that allows the tyrants to win and our rights to be pissed away. Last night, I'm sure, at least one child was abused in New York City. In your stated opinion, that's sufficient justification for the NYPD to break down every door they want to, seize anything they want to, kidnap anyone they want to, and if nothing turns up, why then they were 'protecting a child' and that makes it all right.

You want me to stop yelling at you? Then quit making stupid statements. And quit wiping your ass with the Bill of Rights.

--Pete

Pete, you are just on purpose not understanding Jim for the sake of argument now. Abuse in a cult that happens according to the 'laws' of this cult is something completely different than an individual case of abuse in a city like NY. Jim pointed at this and he is right to say that by removing the children from this cult very very likely a lot of abuse has been prevented. In a case like this you don't want to start number juggling.
Breaking down every door in NY city will do more harm than it will do good. Because you are right in that sense that we have our civil rights so we don't do these kind of actions. The case we are discussing about now is completely different though.
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Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-14-2008, 01:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 02:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-14-2008, 05:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 07:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-14-2008, 08:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-14-2008, 08:59 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Obi2Kenobi - 04-14-2008, 09:20 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 10:01 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-14-2008, 11:12 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-15-2008, 06:33 AM
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Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-15-2008, 11:08 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-15-2008, 11:16 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 02:27 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 02:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 02:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Delc - 04-15-2008, 04:07 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 04:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 05:02 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 06:09 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 06:35 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 07:00 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by TheDragoon - 04-15-2008, 07:25 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 07:29 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 07:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 07:51 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-15-2008, 07:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 08:08 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:12 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 08:13 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 08:31 PM
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Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:49 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 08:51 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 09:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 09:44 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 09:52 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 09:53 PM
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Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 10:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-15-2008, 10:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by tmsti - 04-15-2008, 11:11 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-15-2008, 11:22 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-15-2008, 11:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 04:56 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 05:34 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-16-2008, 06:31 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 07:09 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-16-2008, 08:04 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 01:55 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-16-2008, 01:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 02:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-16-2008, 10:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 10:33 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 10:44 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-16-2008, 11:01 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 04:06 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-17-2008, 06:46 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-17-2008, 08:33 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 09:06 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-17-2008, 01:13 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 03:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 06:02 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 07:45 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 08:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 08:43 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-17-2008, 09:03 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 09:17 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 09:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 09:33 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 09:55 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 09:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 10:11 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-17-2008, 10:29 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-17-2008, 11:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 12:16 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 01:34 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-18-2008, 03:01 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 03:24 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 04:34 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Griselda - 04-18-2008, 05:09 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-18-2008, 05:10 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-18-2008, 07:01 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-18-2008, 07:08 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-18-2008, 12:31 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 02:39 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 06:43 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 06:45 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 06:59 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Mordekhuul - 04-18-2008, 07:57 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 08:07 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 10:03 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-18-2008, 10:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-18-2008, 11:06 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 12:42 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-19-2008, 01:02 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 01:32 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-19-2008, 01:44 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 01:59 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-19-2008, 03:16 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:29 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-19-2008, 03:48 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 04:12 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bun-Bun - 04-19-2008, 05:43 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 04-19-2008, 06:19 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Griselda - 04-19-2008, 01:54 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:09 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Zippyy - 04-19-2008, 03:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:32 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-19-2008, 03:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-20-2008, 10:56 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Quark - 04-20-2008, 03:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Griselda - 04-20-2008, 04:57 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-20-2008, 05:48 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-20-2008, 09:50 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-21-2008, 05:27 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-21-2008, 05:30 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Tal - 04-21-2008, 04:38 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 05:19 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 05:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 05:34 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Bolty - 04-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-21-2008, 08:50 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 08:56 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-21-2008, 09:10 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-21-2008, 10:24 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-22-2008, 05:44 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-22-2008, 06:30 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-22-2008, 02:16 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-22-2008, 02:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-22-2008, 02:36 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-24-2008, 05:12 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-26-2008, 06:10 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-27-2008, 03:32 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-27-2008, 05:06 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-27-2008, 08:08 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 04-27-2008, 08:29 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-28-2008, 10:46 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-29-2008, 04:52 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-29-2008, 01:04 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-29-2008, 01:44 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-29-2008, 04:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-29-2008, 10:38 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 12:25 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-30-2008, 12:37 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 12:51 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 06:39 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 04-30-2008, 07:25 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-30-2008, 03:14 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 03:23 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 05:57 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 06:18 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 06:39 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 04-30-2008, 06:58 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 07:40 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 09:46 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 04-30-2008, 09:50 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 04-30-2008, 11:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-01-2008, 06:36 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 05-01-2008, 06:45 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 05-01-2008, 11:48 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-02-2008, 02:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 05-13-2008, 07:09 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-13-2008, 02:28 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Mavfin - 05-15-2008, 08:07 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-17-2008, 08:02 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-20-2008, 09:13 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jim - 05-25-2008, 11:54 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-25-2008, 03:23 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-29-2008, 09:38 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-29-2008, 06:35 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 05-29-2008, 07:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-29-2008, 07:30 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-29-2008, 09:02 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 05-29-2008, 09:26 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-30-2008, 01:50 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-30-2008, 01:58 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 05-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 05-30-2008, 04:47 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-30-2008, 07:10 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by eppie - 05-30-2008, 07:14 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 05-31-2008, 09:58 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-01-2008, 05:20 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 06-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-01-2008, 09:39 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 06-03-2008, 12:20 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 12:29 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by --Pete - 06-03-2008, 02:54 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 04:48 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-03-2008, 05:54 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Jester - 06-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 06-04-2008, 03:00 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by Vandiablo - 06-04-2008, 04:46 AM
Yet another religious cult raided - by kandrathe - 06-04-2008, 05:04 AM

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