Did Bush manipulate Iraq data?

[kandrathe]

For your god's sake.

Whether the actions against Iraq have accomplished anything good or not, IT WAS NOT THE INTENTION. THE INTENTION WAS OIL.

Think. Why haven't they done anything about North Korea yet? Same kind of threat as with Iraq. The difference is that 1) if you attack, N. Korea may use them, while if you let them sit there, they 99.999999% likely won't; and 2) nothing to gain there.

I'm SURE there'll be an US/China war within the next 30-40 years. It's an emerging econ. power, after all.

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Someone tell me why the death of a few thousand ppl on 9/11 is so much worse than the death of five to ten times as many people in the last five years due to US bombings, not even counting Iraq. I wonder how many innocents have died in Baghdad.

And yes they are religious fanatics and they walk around with Uzis and mistreat women and blah blah blah (if that is even true!), but is that a reason to BOMB them?

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I wonder why so many cruise missiles go off course, and so many bombings hit civilian areas. Isn't the US army the place where the most advanced technology of the world goes to? Can't they, like, use a satellite or Predator or something to look at the target area and AIM their goddamn strikes? Can't they target their rockets with GPS and image recognition? HOW THE HELL can that 'accidentally' go wrong so many times?

Why did they firebomb Dresden in WW2?

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How about looking at your own poverty/gun proliferation/road safety problems before going to war to set others right? I live in Belgium, Europe, and I can tell you that at least this country is about 100 times more democratic and civilized than The Great United States. We care about our poor, for example. Ghent is a medium sized city (a few hundred K inhabitants) and the worst acts of crime are a carjacking here and there, and if it happens twice in a row, it's big news. Gun-related crimes are unheard of. Real poverty usually only occurs among illegal immigrants, and we can't help that, can we? That is due to the fact that in Belgium, you get an unlimited unemployment compensation - guess what, we have a LOWER unemployment percentage than the USA. As for road safety... 1/100 of all people in the USA will die in a car accident. That's what you get for not wearing seat belts. One in three Americans visits a psychiatrist? Go figure. Competition Competition. Kill yourself from within. Be friends already. Come to Europe.

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It is a situation that, now after 9/11 would no longer be tolerated by our gevernemnt if we are to be able to defend ourselves from this catastrophic form of death.

*ahem* whodroppedatomicbombsonjapan *ahem*
Even if you somehow thought the first atomic bomb was necessary, why the second?

First, calm down Brother Laz. It may just be that we agree or disagree on some things... Or, are you trolling?

THE INTENTION WAS OIL.

I would agree that the Iraqi regime caused an instability in the middle east that has had the effect of destabilizing the world economic markets which depend on a stable energy market. It that respect the war was a little bit about oil, but not neccesarily Iraqi oil, but also that of Saudi Arabia, Iran, UAE, etc. Increases in energy prices have a ripple up effect on prices, and can decimate entire industries (like Airlines).

Think. Why haven't they done anything about North Korea yet?

Ok, I'll try to put a couple synapses together for you. Hmmm, considering that Seoul is about 30 miles from the DMZ, and within artillery range. If we tried to do something in North Korea, they would devastate Seoul before would could unload our troops from the ships. They also have about a million trained regular troops and devote 32% of their GDP to the military. That, and the South Koreans, Chinese, and the Japanese would prefer we not devastate the region with a war. I think the US believes that North Korea can be negotiated with, and that they are interested in a negotiated settlement that would help them to emerge from their deep isolation.

I'm SURE there'll be an US/China war within the next 30-40 years. It's an emerging econ. power, after all.

More likely a Chinese civil war, when their economy crashes. They are attempting to use the same failed strategy of devaluing their currency to the point of pricing all foreign products from within the reach of thier own domestic market. This is what got Japan into the fix they are now in economically, and they will suffer the same result.

Someone tell me why the death of a few thousand ppl on 9/11... ...is that a reason to BOMB them?

Hmmm, 2001 set the highpoint in history for the number of deaths due to terrorism. I will assume you are not confusing Iraq and Afghanistan, which is where we went to take out Al Queda, who was responsible for 9/11. No, it has nothing to due with what weapons they carry (Ak47's btw), turbans, religion, or how they treat their women. It has to do with the fact that they are flying planes into buildings. As for deaths in Bahgdad, I don't know. I am reserving judgement for now until the dust settles and we can see a little more clearly what the outcome was.

I wonder why so many cruise missiles... ...Why did they firebomb Dresden in WW2?

Um, now I'm imaging a little foam collecting in the corner of your mouth, and you are getting a little scary. But, technology is not perfect and it could be that a stray AAA bullet might affect the instrumentation. As for Dresden, well it is probably best to debate that in a different thread... As to your implications of the evil nature of countries at war, I would counter "Why did the Germans exterminate the Jews?"

I can tell you that at least this country is about 100 times more democratic and civilized than The Great United States... ...One in three Americans visits a psychiatrist? Go figure. Competition Competition. Kill yourself from within. Be friends already. Come to Europe.

Oh, I've been there plenty. Are you sure it is 100 times, and not 103 times? Anyway, the USA is not all that bad. There are towns the same size as Ghent that are just as safe, and just as nice. For instance, where I live. :)

*ahem* whodroppedatomicbombsonjapan *ahem* Even if you somehow thought the first atomic bomb was necessary, why the second?

It wasn't me! But, I guess it was based on an estimate of how hard it would be to invade the mainland in the context of how hard the Japanese fought to defend Okinowa. 50% of the 400,000 civilians on the island died, 12,250 US soldiers killed, 36,361 wounded, 30 US ships sunk, 223 damaged, the Japanese sent 3500 kamikaze's, lost 109,629 soldiers, with only 7,821 at the end captured as POW's.