04-07-2008, 03:22 PM
Quote:I hear that the human body produces the same heat as a 100 watt light bulb. Maybe there are too many bodies? Once you start making decisions for people, when do we subjectively decide the limits of how much freedom people should have? How much should we breathe, or at all? How are you going to regulate whether or not people open their front doors in the winter too long? And, your answer (as well as the other environmental neo-Luddites) is to return our societies back to primitive subsistence levels as is experienced in much of Africa (which will certainly help on the population side).
You do the same as you are blaming me for. You just put a line somewhere. I mean, why have a policeforce, why have traffic-rules, why have hygene regulations for restaurants etc.etc.
I think working for a better environment is a good thing, and if instead of having to implement all kinds of different schemes people would just think a bit and save energy that would be a lot better......but it doesn't work because people in general are stupid and egoistic. So or you 'just leave it' or you do something.
Of course it is not a right thing to check if people leave their doors open when they are heating the house, but people that in general behave antisocial in these ways should be denied their right to vote. <_<
Quote:How much energy and material does it take to make an LED bulb? How much energy and materials does it take to make a CFL bulb? What is the pay back life of the bulb? Is it five years, ten years? If the bulb does not make it to its pay back life you just screwed the consumer out of his money and wasted more energy than if you had allowed him to use an incandescent bulb.
The best will always be to careful with things you use. Keeping an old car 5 more years will indeed be better for the environment than buying every year the newest environmentally friendly car, just as the best is to change a lightbulb when it is broken and not because your government tells you to.
Just at a certain moment stop selling the incandescent ones and only sell the leds.