3 Children removed from NJ parents
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I freely admit that my opinion on this is very biased. My wife and her best friends are children's case manager for a mental health facility. My son was taken away from his mother by CPS 2 and a half years ago as well, and I was granted custody. At the time that he was taken away, no laws had been 'discovered' as broken. That came out much later, but at the time it was CPS intervening for the welfare of my son and his 2 siblings because their mom is a wackjob.


Quote:Protecting children is more important than 'rights of parents'.

THIS. THIS AND ONLY THIS matters. I can understand the fears of a totalitarian state stealing your rights. I get it. I understand the fear. I'm a freedom of speech nut and anti-censorship freak.

If you want to spout on about your racist views, FINE. Don't involve innocent children in it. These children have become targets just by the name that their idiot parents gave them. If the car has nazi symbols on it, and the parents are using these naming conventions, the state should be obligated to take these children from them. These are actions being taken by the parents that can have catastrophic psychological and or physical ramifications to them.


Quote:...but what law was broken by naming your kid Adolf Hitler, or putting swastika's on your car?

There is no law against this. There is also no law that says I can't let my children play on the roof of the house that I own. If I did this though, I would obviously have my children taken from me.

Quote:...If there is negligent behavior, then make the charge so that the accused can begin to defend themselves.

Their actions are the very definition of negligent behavior.

Quote:...You know, there are satanists who name their babies Lucifer, or worse, but you don't really hear about the state removing their kids much. Maybe they do, and it just doesn't make the national news. It really doesn't matter why they named their children as they did. Did they break any law?

There wasn't a crime committed by doing these things. But it does infringe on the safety of the children. What if some guy is so sickened by this that he decides to take matters into his own hands and T-bone the car on the way to school in the morning. He was taking action against the parents and their beliefs. Those beliefs then put the children in harms way. Plus, and take this for what you will, Do you have to worry about a bunch of Christians killing the kids because of the name? No. I think it's safe to say that 90+% of the christians in the U.S. haven't gotten past the 1980's mentality that could lead to this kind of behavior.

Hitler, Aryan Nation, nazi symbols, and like terms/symbols are despised by the majority. These things are synonymous with the torture and mass murder of millions of people, There is a big difference between naming your son lucifer and Adolph Hilter.

Quote:We don't know because the state refuses to state their case.

And this is the government that you are talking about. If you want to talk about how the government needs to be more transparent about things, that's fine. I for one, think that some opacity in government functions is better than complete transparency.

nobody ever slaughtered an entire school with a smart phone and a twitter account – they have, however, toppled governments. - Jim Wright
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3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-18-2009, 08:19 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Jester - 01-18-2009, 10:25 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-19-2009, 05:07 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Jester - 01-19-2009, 09:29 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Crusader - 01-19-2009, 12:32 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Quark - 01-19-2009, 12:41 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-19-2009, 03:40 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-19-2009, 05:22 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Jester - 01-19-2009, 09:12 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-20-2009, 02:14 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by ShadowHM - 01-20-2009, 02:51 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-20-2009, 03:22 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by ShadowHM - 01-20-2009, 05:17 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-20-2009, 06:07 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by ShadowHM - 01-20-2009, 06:38 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Jester - 01-20-2009, 07:46 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-20-2009, 11:54 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 12:00 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Taem - 01-21-2009, 01:01 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by ShadowHM - 01-21-2009, 04:28 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 06:40 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by eppie - 01-21-2009, 10:06 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Crusader - 01-21-2009, 12:18 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by ShadowHM - 01-21-2009, 12:38 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 02:10 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 02:19 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 02:25 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Lissa - 01-21-2009, 02:27 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 03:32 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Tal - 01-21-2009, 03:39 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 03:45 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-21-2009, 09:42 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by ShadowHM - 01-21-2009, 09:57 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Jester - 01-22-2009, 12:15 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-22-2009, 04:36 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-22-2009, 05:09 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Crusader - 01-22-2009, 01:14 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-22-2009, 03:09 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Tal - 01-22-2009, 03:13 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-22-2009, 11:17 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by shoju - 01-23-2009, 04:56 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-24-2009, 04:15 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-24-2009, 08:11 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-25-2009, 04:23 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-25-2009, 09:39 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by ShadowHM - 01-26-2009, 03:07 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by kandrathe - 01-26-2009, 04:40 AM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Crusader - 01-26-2009, 03:51 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Bolty - 01-30-2009, 04:04 PM
3 Children removed from NJ parents - by Tal - 01-30-2009, 04:24 PM

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