02-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Ok, reading through your post, I think we might be making different points. :) You are making the point that people will skip SSC and TK to hit Hyjal and BT because the incentive isn't there. I was making the point that people will happily go to Hyjal and BT to see that content despite the fact that there are badge gears that are comparable to that and if they are really interested in seeing the content, then they will go through SSC and TK a bit, too. I know raiding groups that are currently happy to go kill Magtheridon once or twice (to get their title) and then move on to SSC and TK. So I still think that there will be room for people to go back and see content that doesn't necessarily give as many upgrades.
The way things are, now, people are very happy to go back to Karazhan for badges, so it gets run weekly. People want to hit Gruul because he drops some very unique items (a certain melee trinket...), so he gets run. People don't really care about Magtheridon besides for the title, so you don't see as much of him, though many groups DO kill him once to say that they did.
In 2.4, I expect people will go and hit the easier bosses in SSC and TK to say they did it and move on. They might also go to kill Vashj and Kael'thas once or twice each to open up the ring rewards in Hyjal and get the next title. But then people will move on to Hyjal and BT... and I don't necessarily think that is a bad thing.
Perhaps I'm a bit jaded because the way this is working out is perfect for my raiding group. We're currently 5/6 and 3/4 in SSC and TK, so we just have to look at Vashj and Kael'thas, right now. We'll work on them until 2.4 comes out, and then likely move into Hyjal and BT to see some of that. But I have a feeling we'll go back and see Vashj and Kael'thas at some point, if we don't get them now, in order to get our rings and titles. But overall, clearing the way through some potentially frustrating and difficult encounters that we're going to face until 2.4 comes out is a great boon, in my eyes.
So overall, I'm happy with this and I expect that I will still get to see everything, eventually, but this might help remove some roadblocks from our path. :)
The way things are, now, people are very happy to go back to Karazhan for badges, so it gets run weekly. People want to hit Gruul because he drops some very unique items (a certain melee trinket...), so he gets run. People don't really care about Magtheridon besides for the title, so you don't see as much of him, though many groups DO kill him once to say that they did.
In 2.4, I expect people will go and hit the easier bosses in SSC and TK to say they did it and move on. They might also go to kill Vashj and Kael'thas once or twice each to open up the ring rewards in Hyjal and get the next title. But then people will move on to Hyjal and BT... and I don't necessarily think that is a bad thing.
Perhaps I'm a bit jaded because the way this is working out is perfect for my raiding group. We're currently 5/6 and 3/4 in SSC and TK, so we just have to look at Vashj and Kael'thas, right now. We'll work on them until 2.4 comes out, and then likely move into Hyjal and BT to see some of that. But I have a feeling we'll go back and see Vashj and Kael'thas at some point, if we don't get them now, in order to get our rings and titles. But overall, clearing the way through some potentially frustrating and difficult encounters that we're going to face until 2.4 comes out is a great boon, in my eyes.
So overall, I'm happy with this and I expect that I will still get to see everything, eventually, but this might help remove some roadblocks from our path. :)
-TheDragoon