Patch 2.4 Notes
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Quote:Anytime Blizzard releases new content, it obsoletes some other content unless they do something to not obsolete it. It happened when people got into SSC and TE and made Gruul and Magtheridon pretty much obsolete once they got in. Once people got into Hyjal and BT, they pretty much stopped going to SSC/TE (how many times has CM gone into SSC and TE since you guys got full access to Hyjal and BT except to get someone attuned?).

Once again, I think there's a difference of definition over the term "obsolete". Older content doesn't become obsolete once you're past it just because you stop running it. In the current patch, SSC and TK are not obsolete, because you still run them before you run BT/Hyjal, in the same way that everyone cleared BWL before AQ40. And I'm not going to lie - attunements are a big reason to do that. But even if the attunements were gone, running SSC and TK would still make sense to gear up for T6 content. That's not obsolete. At the Tier 5 level of progression, you have SSC, TK, and ZA, all of which offer comparable rewards for comparable difficulty. That's good design.

Dropping SSC/TK for BT/Hyjal is just progression. It's how guilds are supposed to go; you move on, you leave old content behind. The vendors are prompting rejection of everything, and instead, running Karazhan, oldest of old content. That's what's out of whack.

Quote:What I see as more of the problem here is people are going to rush into Sunwell after getting this badge gear and then claim that the fights are too hard even though they have the gear and the people that have been conqueorring he content up to this will get through the content in Sunwell and wonder why people are whining. Then it will be, will Blizzard dumb down the encounters because of the people without skill, but with the equipment are whining that they can't deal with the encounters because they don't have the necessary skill.

This is an excellent point and one that I was going to raise myself. It's the phat lewtz theory of gravity: better loot attracts all players equally. People who never, ever have a chance at the skill or coordination required to get into Sunwell will run Karazhan for six more months, gear up, hit Sunwell and die and die and die. Instead of training in lower content, they'll just quit. People who could have at least gone 5/6, 3/4, seen some content, had fun raiding, now will see about the first boss in Sunwell and have no fun at all.

Isn't that a problem?
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-09-2008, 03:26 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-09-2008, 04:25 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-09-2008, 04:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 05:15 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-09-2008, 06:44 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 10:48 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-09-2008, 10:57 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LochnarITB - 02-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-09-2008, 01:15 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Quark - 02-09-2008, 02:04 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-09-2008, 06:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-09-2008, 06:59 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-09-2008, 07:11 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-09-2008, 08:01 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-09-2008, 08:48 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-09-2008, 09:17 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-09-2008, 10:26 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-09-2008, 11:55 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-10-2008, 12:33 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 12:59 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-10-2008, 01:04 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-10-2008, 01:09 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 01:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by RTM - 02-10-2008, 03:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-10-2008, 03:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 07:46 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 08:56 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 09:32 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-10-2008, 09:49 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mirajj - 02-10-2008, 03:16 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-10-2008, 08:37 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-12-2008, 06:08 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Delc - 02-12-2008, 06:50 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by NiteFox - 02-12-2008, 07:09 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by LavCat - 02-12-2008, 08:21 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Artega - 02-12-2008, 08:31 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-13-2008, 01:15 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by TheDragoon - 02-13-2008, 02:46 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-13-2008, 06:28 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-13-2008, 11:05 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-13-2008, 11:16 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-14-2008, 12:25 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-14-2008, 03:30 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-14-2008, 03:58 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-14-2008, 04:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-14-2008, 05:50 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-14-2008, 06:03 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Warlock - 02-14-2008, 11:58 AM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-14-2008, 06:55 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-15-2008, 10:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-15-2008, 05:40 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-15-2008, 09:34 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-15-2008, 10:48 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-16-2008, 12:19 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-16-2008, 12:34 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-16-2008, 02:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-16-2008, 02:20 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-16-2008, 03:12 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-19-2008, 09:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-19-2008, 10:33 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Lissa - 02-19-2008, 10:42 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-20-2008, 12:04 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 12:36 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 12:39 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Kevin - 02-20-2008, 12:52 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Concillian - 02-20-2008, 01:02 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 01:16 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Skandranon - 02-20-2008, 01:38 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Jester - 02-20-2008, 01:47 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by oldmandennis - 02-20-2008, 09:44 AM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-20-2008, 04:18 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Gorthag - 02-22-2008, 03:18 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Sir_Die_alot - 02-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mordekhuul - 02-22-2008, 05:22 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by lorecraft - 02-25-2008, 07:36 PM
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Patch 2.4 Notes - by Monkey - 02-26-2008, 03:29 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Icebird - 02-26-2008, 11:54 PM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Bolty - 02-27-2008, 06:53 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Taelas - 02-27-2008, 10:29 AM
Patch 2.4 Notes - by Mavfin - 02-27-2008, 03:21 PM

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