02-09-2008, 11:55 PM
Quote:The stuff is going to be obsolete anyway. While I fully agree that this will kill any enthusiasm for doing anything but Heroics and Karazhan, if it lets people raid Sunwell, what does it matter?
Well, I think we're using obsolete in different contexts. For example, pre-TBC, BWL loot never became obsolete. Sure, T3 was better piece-for-piece, but it wasn't obsolete because for the appropriate level of progression, BWL loot was the best available to boost you to the next level. Gear isn't automatically obsolete just because something better exists.
In this case, what I mean is that SSC/TK loot is becoming obsolete because better rewards are coming from a comparable (or, in this case, earlier) level of progression. That heavily incentivizes that one at the cost of the other.
Quote:They are trying to avoid what happened at TBC launch: Naxxramas became obsolete and had only been raided by a handful of guilds. By removing the attunement requirements for BT/Hyjal and providing easily-achievable BT-equivalent gear, they're opening the door wide. People can look inside Black Temple/Mount Hyjal if that's their thing. They can actually experience Sunwell, the last raid instance in TBC content, before it becomes obsolete.
Except that the gear is slanting earlier stuff to be not anyone's thing. I don't resent people experiencing Sunwell; I'm glad for it. But when it's coming at the cost of experiencing everything else except Kara? Are you sure you'd be having more fun that way? And of course it's true for some people that they would, and good for them, but for quite a lot of people it won't be, but they'll have to do it anyway.
Quote:Serpentshrine Cavern and The Eye get the short end of the shtick, but with the changes to Vashj and Kael'thas, people can experience the toughest battles these two instances will offer -- with minimal effort.
Right, but those are still hard fights. If people can get 25 together for it - far from a sure thing - they'll go in, wipe a couple times, and then give up. Too much effort for no reward. For me, personally, I don't really see that as "experiencing" it.