New Imigration Reform
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Quote:I agree with this.

Also I think many of the illegal immigrants play an important role in the economy. They work hard in jobs that nobody wants AND they do it without having the right on social benefits, because they are illegal.
I don't think that the economic impact of having illegal immigrants is so negative, probably it even is positive.
The other issue (related) is the problem of industries moving to cheap labout countries to have their work done. People complain about this, but the other possibility is bankrupcy for these big companies, and nobody benefits from that.

The point I am trying to make is that globalisation works in two ways. We in the west have more possibilities of finding the cheapest way of getting our nice things produced, but people from those porer country's also want a share of the goodies, and I can't blame them.
Labor in a Capitalist economy is also a supply and demand resouce. If you flood the supply of welders the wage drops and welding schools go out of business. If the supply dries up, suddenly welders are making a living wage and VoTec schools are producing more of them until the supply equalizes with demand. Unskilled illegal labor, such as that brought across the border, fuels a cash based black market economy that is mostly unsafe and unregulated. Society requires an agreed upon basic set of laws. All I am advocating is for existing immigration laws to be enforced at all levels of government. We DO live in a world with borders and increasingly fences to keep the borders, so until we have free travel visas to live and work wherever we like, and corresponding global employment laws, we will need to work within the limitations of what exists.

For example, the 18th Street gang in LA hires and imports illegals to sell their drugs. These illegal immigrant drug pushers are not gang members, they just work for them. So, while the cliche is the hispanic gardener, maid, crop picker, or nanny making $2 an hour, the reality of the range of jobs held by illegal workers is more diverse and sinister.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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New Imigration Reform - by Taem - 08-31-2007, 05:12 AM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 08-31-2007, 06:40 AM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 08-31-2007, 06:55 AM
New Imigration Reform - by NuurAbSaal - 08-31-2007, 09:47 AM
New Imigration Reform - by eppie - 08-31-2007, 10:54 AM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 08-31-2007, 04:42 PM
New Imigration Reform - by oldmandennis - 08-31-2007, 05:27 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Chesspiece_face - 08-31-2007, 06:31 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 08-31-2007, 06:53 PM
New Imigration Reform - by oldmandennis - 08-31-2007, 08:17 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 08-31-2007, 08:30 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 08-31-2007, 08:43 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 08-31-2007, 09:04 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 08-31-2007, 09:15 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 08-31-2007, 09:20 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Taem - 08-31-2007, 09:32 PM
New Imigration Reform - by --Pete - 08-31-2007, 10:08 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 08-31-2007, 10:51 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-01-2007, 01:32 AM
New Imigration Reform - by Pantalaimon - 09-01-2007, 02:42 AM
New Imigration Reform - by Pantalaimon - 09-01-2007, 02:45 AM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-01-2007, 04:48 AM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-01-2007, 02:37 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-01-2007, 05:09 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Hammerskjold - 09-01-2007, 05:40 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-01-2007, 08:02 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-01-2007, 08:03 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 09-02-2007, 12:13 AM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-02-2007, 04:20 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-02-2007, 04:49 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-02-2007, 04:56 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 09-02-2007, 06:21 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-02-2007, 06:36 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-02-2007, 06:47 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-02-2007, 07:52 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-02-2007, 09:02 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 09-02-2007, 09:39 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-02-2007, 10:22 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 09-02-2007, 11:51 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-03-2007, 01:18 AM
New Imigration Reform - by oldmandennis - 09-03-2007, 03:10 AM
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New Imigration Reform - by Swiss Mercenary - 09-03-2007, 07:54 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Jester - 09-03-2007, 10:28 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-04-2007, 02:09 PM
New Imigration Reform - by Taem - 09-04-2007, 11:35 PM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-05-2007, 12:45 AM
New Imigration Reform - by Taem - 09-05-2007, 05:09 AM
New Imigration Reform - by kandrathe - 09-05-2007, 10:05 AM
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