08-23-2007, 05:32 PM
I've come to the conclusion that I can no longer do what I love most with my warrior. I can no longer raid twice a week, so I've fallen behind on my gearing for the MT duties that I love, and I feel like I'm a liability when I'm MTing Prince/Nightbane or tougher. Since 3 uncompromising protection warriors is more than what is usually needed for most 25 man raids and I'm clearly the third, I'm looking at a hybrid build. I want to go, I want to help, and I hate feeling marginalized (this part could be all in my head). Since I'm moving away from the most gear dependent role, I should feel less gear pressure, which is what has been killing my fun of late.
I'm looking for help on talents and gearing, and on how to DPS as a warrior. I know tanking quite well, I'm even a decent healer, but I've never played a DPS class/spec, or at least played one well. I was a horrid warlock when I was one, but I digress...
Here is what I have in mind for talents. The choices that I've made stem from a couple of ideas. I intend to be the first DPS warrior called on to tank. I have the best tanking gear of any but our top protection warriors, and I'd like to use it. In order for me to feel comfortable tanking in raids, including bosses, I felt I needed Toughness and Improved Shield Block, along with the staples of Defiance and Last Stand from the protection tree. My intents for tanking are to maintain 490+ defense, keep crushing blows at a minimum through imp shield block, stack armor and stam before avoidance since the heals are usually incoming anyway, which is why I felt I could give up deflection.
For my DPS gear and talent choices, I've decided to go dual wield Fury for now, since I have epic one-handers but no epic 2 hander at this point. Here is where I'm especially looking for input. For epic weapons, I have the King's Defender, Blade of the Unrequited, and Emerald Ripper. I currently use KD and the Blade, with KD as my main hand. I chose the KD for my main hand due to Mongoose enchant on it, and also due to it being a sword and the speed normalization would calculate it at 2.2 speed weapon over the two daggers. I expect it to be a solid offhand if I find a better main hand. I have a Demonblood Eviscerator if speed is that important. From what I understand about Fury, the speed isn't important except for Whirlwinding, which will be pretty weak with those weapons, but otherwise DPS on Fury is +hit, AP, crit, and yet more AP.
I shall log out in my DPS gear when I get home tonight. I'm currently in hybrid gear that I wear for Netherspite, since it maximizes DPS while maintaining 490 defense, so don't go off of my gear until you see me around 20% chance to crit. I generally have very good non-heroic blue DPS gear. I do need to work on obtaining Doomplate items. I do lack the best DPS plate belt (Deathforge Girdle), and my gloves are sadly the Ironblade Gauntlets.
I am not yet sure what items I'll choose with my Tier tokens (if/when I get any), but I plan to follow the same guidelines that the DPS warriors have been following when it comes to loot (yielding tanking items to dedicated tanks), with one exception: I will take the shield off of Nightbane if I can get it, no matter who I'm competing with.
Summary on intent of build:
<span style="color:#FF6600">- Must capably fill a DPS slot
- Must be a respectable raid offtank, with imp shield block, defiance, toughness, last stand
Feedback most desired for:
<span style="color:#FF6600">- Fury tree talents (I'm pretty set on the prot tree)
- Gear for DPS
- Howto/tips for Fury warrior DPS
I'm looking for help on talents and gearing, and on how to DPS as a warrior. I know tanking quite well, I'm even a decent healer, but I've never played a DPS class/spec, or at least played one well. I was a horrid warlock when I was one, but I digress...
Here is what I have in mind for talents. The choices that I've made stem from a couple of ideas. I intend to be the first DPS warrior called on to tank. I have the best tanking gear of any but our top protection warriors, and I'd like to use it. In order for me to feel comfortable tanking in raids, including bosses, I felt I needed Toughness and Improved Shield Block, along with the staples of Defiance and Last Stand from the protection tree. My intents for tanking are to maintain 490+ defense, keep crushing blows at a minimum through imp shield block, stack armor and stam before avoidance since the heals are usually incoming anyway, which is why I felt I could give up deflection.
For my DPS gear and talent choices, I've decided to go dual wield Fury for now, since I have epic one-handers but no epic 2 hander at this point. Here is where I'm especially looking for input. For epic weapons, I have the King's Defender, Blade of the Unrequited, and Emerald Ripper. I currently use KD and the Blade, with KD as my main hand. I chose the KD for my main hand due to Mongoose enchant on it, and also due to it being a sword and the speed normalization would calculate it at 2.2 speed weapon over the two daggers. I expect it to be a solid offhand if I find a better main hand. I have a Demonblood Eviscerator if speed is that important. From what I understand about Fury, the speed isn't important except for Whirlwinding, which will be pretty weak with those weapons, but otherwise DPS on Fury is +hit, AP, crit, and yet more AP.
I shall log out in my DPS gear when I get home tonight. I'm currently in hybrid gear that I wear for Netherspite, since it maximizes DPS while maintaining 490 defense, so don't go off of my gear until you see me around 20% chance to crit. I generally have very good non-heroic blue DPS gear. I do need to work on obtaining Doomplate items. I do lack the best DPS plate belt (Deathforge Girdle), and my gloves are sadly the Ironblade Gauntlets.
I am not yet sure what items I'll choose with my Tier tokens (if/when I get any), but I plan to follow the same guidelines that the DPS warriors have been following when it comes to loot (yielding tanking items to dedicated tanks), with one exception: I will take the shield off of Nightbane if I can get it, no matter who I'm competing with.
Summary on intent of build:
<span style="color:#FF6600">- Must capably fill a DPS slot
- Must be a respectable raid offtank, with imp shield block, defiance, toughness, last stand
Feedback most desired for:
<span style="color:#FF6600">- Fury tree talents (I'm pretty set on the prot tree)
- Gear for DPS
- Howto/tips for Fury warrior DPS
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Dagorthan – Level 85 Blood Knight
Turothan – Level 83 Blood Knight
Sarothan – Level 62 Blood Knight
Durambar – Level 82 Warrior
Strifemourne – Level 80 Death Knight
Dagorthan – Level 85 Blood Knight
Turothan – Level 83 Blood Knight
Sarothan – Level 62 Blood Knight
Durambar – Level 82 Warrior
Strifemourne – Level 80 Death Knight