08-23-2007, 04:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-23-2007, 04:23 PM by Concillian.)
In your setup, I think I'd be going after their DPS on shaman or priest first and here's why:
- Most good 5v5 teams have a priest.
- A large portion of priest healing is dispellable.
- you have no purges / dispels on your "offense" (rogue + warrior)
Switch the feral to a role of molesting the healers. Feral charge + bash + cyclone + whatever the cat disorients are called rotations can do this pretty well
Switch rogue / warrior to a role of disrupting whatever is on the healers, these become focus target.
As TD mentioned, healers have little they can do if they are being focused. While he said Paladins, the same is also true of any other healer if the other team is smart enough to be purging them. Priest's can sometimes bait into interrupting shadow so they can get a heal off, but no guarantee, especially without Concentration aura (one of the most under the radar crucially important tools in 5v5).
So at this point their focus target becomes your "offensive purge" player, which is worth an unmeasurable amount of DPS if they're trying to heal with priest or druid instants (and they likely will be).
My philosophy in 5v5 is to ensure you have an offensive dispel on whatever the focus target is. This is because I have experience from both ends. On my priest I can survive a warrior until I'm approximately OOM if I'm not purged. As a warrior I've seen this too, but I've also seen from both sides a priest getting flattened in no time when someone else is doing nothing other than spamming purge / dispel on the target. When you do this you can kill a target that is being healed with much less DPS. Without this you are likely to be hitting the target until their healers run OOM. Ideally you want the first focus to be a healer, but in your case this probably isn't possible.
The downside to focusing a paladin first is that bubble is a lot more difficult to dispel than BoP. If you have a focus target on the non-paladin, and someone literally spamming purge/dispel, you won't even see BoP when it's cast except that it will clear MS, deep wounds, etc... (but not wound poison). This is part of why with such a physical damage focused team you need to center your strategies around offensive purges. BoP is a complete killer to you if you have to purge it in a reactionary fashion. If it gets insta-purged, it becomes helpful to your focus strategy because their paladin just burned a global cooldown where he wasn't healing.
- Most good 5v5 teams have a priest.
- A large portion of priest healing is dispellable.
- you have no purges / dispels on your "offense" (rogue + warrior)
Switch the feral to a role of molesting the healers. Feral charge + bash + cyclone + whatever the cat disorients are called rotations can do this pretty well
Switch rogue / warrior to a role of disrupting whatever is on the healers, these become focus target.
As TD mentioned, healers have little they can do if they are being focused. While he said Paladins, the same is also true of any other healer if the other team is smart enough to be purging them. Priest's can sometimes bait into interrupting shadow so they can get a heal off, but no guarantee, especially without Concentration aura (one of the most under the radar crucially important tools in 5v5).
So at this point their focus target becomes your "offensive purge" player, which is worth an unmeasurable amount of DPS if they're trying to heal with priest or druid instants (and they likely will be).
My philosophy in 5v5 is to ensure you have an offensive dispel on whatever the focus target is. This is because I have experience from both ends. On my priest I can survive a warrior until I'm approximately OOM if I'm not purged. As a warrior I've seen this too, but I've also seen from both sides a priest getting flattened in no time when someone else is doing nothing other than spamming purge / dispel on the target. When you do this you can kill a target that is being healed with much less DPS. Without this you are likely to be hitting the target until their healers run OOM. Ideally you want the first focus to be a healer, but in your case this probably isn't possible.
The downside to focusing a paladin first is that bubble is a lot more difficult to dispel than BoP. If you have a focus target on the non-paladin, and someone literally spamming purge/dispel, you won't even see BoP when it's cast except that it will clear MS, deep wounds, etc... (but not wound poison). This is part of why with such a physical damage focused team you need to center your strategies around offensive purges. BoP is a complete killer to you if you have to purge it in a reactionary fashion. If it gets insta-purged, it becomes helpful to your focus strategy because their paladin just burned a global cooldown where he wasn't healing.
Conc / Concillian -- Vintage player of many games. Deadly leader of the All Pally Team (or was it Death leader?)
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Terenas WoW player... while we waited for Diablo III.
And it came... and it went... and I played Hearthstone longer than Diablo III.