Bush commutes Libby sentence

[kandrathe]

I don´t have to because I, in contrast to you apparently, only consider the individual that is responsible for his own acts. Not some religion or race. That is why I am so sure about the fact that our society is not based on religion, but it is in fact the other way around.

Ok, because you say so, and you are sure your are right. Good enough for me... not.

I think it was a clear liberal endeavor. People that were able to think outside of the religion box that told them they were superior to others, that being plants, animals, or different races.

It was religious people who wrote that "All men are created equal" and that "all men are endowed by their creator with inalienable rights". It was religious people, namely Quakers, that led the abolitionist movement in both Europe and the US.

First,I don´t think it is Islam. Should I otherwise say that Christianity is still murderous after 2000 years because GW Bush is fighting an illegal war? No I don´t think so. It are the neocons that want to fight a war, not Christianity. Your reasoning here is very weak.

I suppose you think Mohammed Bouyeri was just a thug, and Van Gogh's murder was just street crime.

And this is exactly my point, thank´s for showing me I was right. :D

Actually, I said the opposite. Twist it as you like.

People do what they like, often they use religion to justify their actions, however, it is the society and these people that make these things possible. Once it is needed that some Native Americans have to be killed....... religion will be used to justify this. Religion is nice to keep the simple people quiet, but more often it is used to start a hate campaign. Religion is just a tool, it has never been the basis of a culture and such.

It is evil people who use anything they can to justify their crimes, and not just religion. They use other people, the law, or civil institutions and some even religion to justify their evil acts. This does not mean that it is these things that beget evil. Evil actions are the fetid eruptions of a human heart.

I could just as well substitute "The Law" into your final sentence and it makes as little sense; "People do what they like, often they use the law to justify their actions, however, it is the society and these people that make these things possible. Once it is needed that some Native Americans have to be killed....... the law will be used to justify this. The law is nice to keep the simple people quiet, but more often it is used to start a hate campaign. The law is just a tool, it has never been the basis of a culture and such."