06-02-2007, 08:33 AM
Quote:600 DPS with no raid-benefiting debuffs or buffs (literally, all they can do is provide another Shout, since Sunder is covered by the tank.) Even a Retrinoob would be better in that slot (not that they can't do modest DPS; it's just that Holy is a much better tree than both Protection and Retribution for PvE.)
Druid #2 doesn't even bring the shout. It does bring another Innervate and another Rebirth though.
My own take on the issue - the current situation is pretty good. It's certianly a LOT better for Druid tanks than it was pre-BC. A tanking Druid will get to tank fairly often without doing it all the time - I actually prefer my role in Kara (tank #1 or #2 depending on the group but also healing or in kitty sometimes) to my 5-man role (near pure tank). I'll never do the 25 mans so can't comment on my role in them.
Paladin tanks are a lot better now too, being much more accepted in 5-man play, though still in need of work for raid tanking.
Both classes need raid level tanking itemisation. Gear with all five stats and +heal is not tank gear. However I consider Druid PVP (and specifically Arena) a bigger issue for the class than tanking ability right now.