05-28-2007, 10:57 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-28-2007, 10:59 AM by oldmandennis.)
Quotes from Wowwiki aside (jebus, thats authoratative), can I try and break this thread before it gets more personal?
1)Warriors are the premier raid main tank. They have been since Luci. The designers will keep it this way, that one off hand, taken out of context comment aside.
2)Either druids or paladins have no real problems tanking most heroics, and any 5 man.
3)Paladin raid tanks need work.
3a) Either deep prot has to push their single tank abilities to the warrior level (not likely)
or 3b) AOE tanking needs to be a more consistent part of the raid game AND deep prot needs to affect AOE tanking more.
or 3c) Some completely new mechanic needs to be put in deep prot to encourage it (I suggest buffing BoSac)
4)Feral druids are an integral part of most raid groups. Weather it's OT'ing Gruul, picking up the first channeler on Mag(in cat gear, for max initial threat and max dps on mag later), or picking up Hydross adds, Druids are mathematically far superior at many raid jobs. These are not usually trivial parts of the encounters.
5)If you want to be stubborn about it, Druids can MT everything. The 15% (10%? 20%? not really sure, doesn't really matter) difference between a warrior and a druid seems huge when you are on one side of an encounter, and trivial when it's on farm.
6)Any miscommunication on the relative strengths of tanks is pretty minor in the scheme of other miscommunications. Leveling a toon based on it, given their history of not fully understanding end game roles, and a complete lack of math supporting druid as MT, is really pretty silly.
Does that cover it? Can we move on?
1)Warriors are the premier raid main tank. They have been since Luci. The designers will keep it this way, that one off hand, taken out of context comment aside.
2)Either druids or paladins have no real problems tanking most heroics, and any 5 man.
3)Paladin raid tanks need work.
3a) Either deep prot has to push their single tank abilities to the warrior level (not likely)
or 3b) AOE tanking needs to be a more consistent part of the raid game AND deep prot needs to affect AOE tanking more.
or 3c) Some completely new mechanic needs to be put in deep prot to encourage it (I suggest buffing BoSac)
4)Feral druids are an integral part of most raid groups. Weather it's OT'ing Gruul, picking up the first channeler on Mag(in cat gear, for max initial threat and max dps on mag later), or picking up Hydross adds, Druids are mathematically far superior at many raid jobs. These are not usually trivial parts of the encounters.
5)If you want to be stubborn about it, Druids can MT everything. The 15% (10%? 20%? not really sure, doesn't really matter) difference between a warrior and a druid seems huge when you are on one side of an encounter, and trivial when it's on farm.
6)Any miscommunication on the relative strengths of tanks is pretty minor in the scheme of other miscommunications. Leveling a toon based on it, given their history of not fully understanding end game roles, and a complete lack of math supporting druid as MT, is really pretty silly.
Does that cover it? Can we move on?