WoW Stratics IRC Chat

[Taelas]

You know, I was going to provide an even, reasoned response, but you're getting so grossly insulting that I can't bring myself to do it. You're not even implying it - you are flat out accusing me of lying. What benefit would I accrue by lying to you? I don't want to beat you down with credentials, I'd much rather do so by explaining why druids are better, but I don't know whether you're inclined to listen. Is there anything I can say which will make you believe me? Because whenever I relate an experience I've had raiding, you say I'm lying. What basis you have for such outrageous accusations, I don't know, since you clearly haven't seen the encounters yourself.

Ask Tal, ask Mav, ask any of the Lurkers around here who know me. I don't lie about encounters, and certainly (and verifiably, go search) not on this forum. I'm telling you the truth - would you like to hear it?

You're looking at druid tanking through rose-colored glasses. I have both a warrior and a druid and while I tank stuff just fine on my druid, I did it better on my warrior. On my warrior, I can gulp consumables when things go bad or pop Shield Wall. On my druid, I'm a sitting duck. I can watch my healers get incapacitated and my health bar go down and there's absolutely nothing I can do. I could risk a double-shift macro which drinks a potion instantly then goes back to bear form (takes less than a second to carry out if done right and with no lag), but even though it's very fast, I'm removing all of my armor to do this. I can only really do this on bosses with no sudden damage.

You can keep on claiming druids are better tanks, but it is just not true. Druids have two actual advantages over warriors when tanking: Swipe and less rage-intensive moves (and more damage = more rage). The first doesn't come into play in raids, and the second actually encourages us to off-tank rather than main-tank. Do you want me to list what advantages warriors have over druids?

I'm not saying you're lying about encounters.

This is what I have issues with:
"Why shouldn't a warrior be the best at it - since non-warriors are the best at other tank jobs?"
What other tank jobs? Off-tanking? 5-mans? Sorry, but if you're already bringing more than one Protection warrior, the first job is taken, despite that I'm supposedly better at it. As for 5-mans, they've gotten much better in TBC, but I still don't really care about them. Any loot I can get in a non-Heroic 5-man will be replaced by raid gear. As for Heroics, that's currently the only place where I can really put my skills to use.

"For all the rest of the tanking, a warrior would struggle or be outright incapable of pulling it off."
What is a warrior OUTRIGHT INCAPABLE of tanking? How is claiming something like this NOT making stuff up?

"For everything else, go druid, and in some cases paladin."
Not if it's a spelldamage heavy fight. Not if it's something that needs to be tanked throughout the encounter.
And really, when would you ever go paladin instead of a warrior?