2.1.0 Patch Notes

[Mirajj]

Let me ask you this Quark, how closely have you looked at the differences between a BM, Marksman, and Survival Hunter? Do you realize that most Survival Hunters take the most damage producing talents in the first 4 Tiers of Marksman? Do you also realize that if you stacked up a Survival Hunter next to a BM or Marksman Hunter that, while they will have anywhere from 200 to 400 less AP, they will instead have on the order of 10%+ more crit? Do you also realize that Mortal Shots, if you go 5/5, means that every 1% crit is equal to 1.3 times more damage? This means a Survival Hunter is going to have more damage through crits meaning that even with that 200 to 400 less AP they're going to be close, not surpass Marksman, but close to them in DPS.

And let me tell you this. That despite all three trees of the hunter being close in damage (All three should be able to do around 650-800 right now) that it's NOT IMPROVING. So when everyone is in SSC and the other damage classes are much higher, hunters will still be putting out their 650-800dps. The gap right now is, as you yourself pointed out, around 500dps (1300 to 800) So what will happen when that gets worse? You said that you've created a wishlist of gear that would enable you to give around 225AP to the raid, but requires you to have "some" SSC and Eye pieces. By the time a guild is raiding SSC/The Eye, given the differences in dps increases, do you really think that 225AP will get you a raid spot? If the bar for a dps class is set at around 1600, and you can just barely do half of that with every trick at your disposal...why would a raid bring you along? Even if you could give the raid 225AP more?

This is the problem you aren't seeing, Lissa. Right now, as things stand this VERY MOMENT, the math heads have worked it out, (I don't know how you got your numbers and often wonder how you do come up with whatever you end up with) and no matter what else a hunter can do or bring, the ONLY reason they are brought on a raid is Misdirection. A couple of band-aid fixes MAY fix this in the here and now (Kara/Gruul/Mag level) but once things move past that, then what? We are right back to square one.