04-24-2007, 05:35 PM
Quote:About Islam as a violent religion:
I should finally get off my butt and inform myself about it. From my, still uninformed, point of view Islam (islamistic cultures/governments) lack a couple of hundred years of development, let's not forget that the catholic church used to be a merciless slaughtering behemoth for hundreds of years.
I completely agree with you. And I also think Kandrathe agrees on most points with us. Especially the part that we are all not willing to force our believes to others using violence.
One mistake Kandrathe makes (in my opinion) and a lot of other people do is illustrated by him saying:
quote kandrathe....I can be a patriot, a libertarian, and still have Christian moral standards. unquote
Christian moral standards don't exist. A society makes moral standards, a religion just follows. This might look like a detail but it makes the whole Muslim vs. Christian struggle a lot less severe.
If it weren't for some bright scientists and people doubting the existence of god, we in Europe would still be living in the middle ages. We would burn witches, put heretics on stakes etc. etc.
At that time that was good Christian believe.......and the bible is still the same old book. Religion will follow society (often not happily) and that is why the most advanced societies generally sport the least extreme religion.